“We don’t want people to be able to tell us what to do with our loot so you have to do loot the way we want to do ours even though we will never play together…”
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That is acting like they shouldnt arrest thieves because they are just making a living. Control freaks do not have a special right to control people because “that is the way they play” That being said, I support the version of ML that lets people within the raid to set themselves as PL. But dont use an argument that makes zero sense.
No. It’s closer to my friend and I find a cool looking shell on the beach, and you’re dictating how to decide which one of us gets to keep it.
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Flip a coin.
but what if we want to decide by playing a game of chess? why are we not allowed to do that?
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You could but it’d be a big waste of time and I could think of few people settling bets that way.
What part of my argument makes zero sense?
The part where I don’t think that people who have nothing to do with my guild should have no say in what my guild can do with loot since they are not involved and its none of their business?
IDC what you (general you not you specifically) do for loot because it doesn’t involve me. If you and your group are all happy then awesome I don’t care what you decide to do. If you decide to stream yourselves and have a dance of irl for loot then who am I to stop you if that is what the raid has decided they will do?
I don’t understand why people like Spirits and others feel they should have any influence over groups they are not part of all while calling me a control freak. It seem more than a little hypocritical to me.
You should read “If You Give a Mouse a Cookie”.
I don’t care if HoF Mythic guilds get ML. They deserve it. I don’t want it to seep into the rest of the game that I might care about.
When you started asking for M+ ML as well it confirmed my suspicions that you just want to control loot 24/7 and don’t care how it impacts the rest of the game.
They might make 5 mans I want to do next expansion, I don’t want ML to be the order of the day. Thanks.
You should read “the lord of the rings”. Its a great book.
Michael Moorcock called it crap.
I’ve read The Stand 32 times now, I can’t stop.
I edited that post, there is more explanation.
And that’s the beauty of choice. If Mike doesn’t like it he doesn’t have to read it.
He can read anything else he wants to because he has the choice to do so. Unlike wow loot systems where regardless of what a guild wants they are forced to use the same system which is great for some but not for all. Just like how some like the lord of the rings but Mike doesnt.
So you would be okay with Mythic raid guilds having a vote (secret ballot of course) that if 100% voted in favor of ML, they get ML? But…one dissenting vote makes it PL?
I hope Master looter never comes back. As a pug raider, some of the most upsetting WoW memories I have are from being cheated out of loot that I rightfully won on rolls.
I quit wow for 6 months after I was robbed an item I won on a roll in WoD, and I
only came back after Blizzard announced they were removing the master looter feature.
I can say without a doubt, I’d leave again if that came back.
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And you would rather just be the sole arbiter and final word on who gets it.
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True, in legion I was completely funneled cause the officer was trying to hook me up lol
Pretty sure I have said that about 10 times in this thread. Yea.
I also think that guilds that got CE the tier before should be able to use it in heroic because loot there matters too for the first few weeks. again if 100% want it. Although idk why anyone would be in a guild that uses ml if they didnt want to be in a guild that uses ML. imo you have already voted when you accepted the guild invite and turned up to raid.
The op literally said
Well fortunately for you I dont think a single person in this thread has asked for it for pugs. Everyone is saying for guild groups. and imo full btag friends should be ok too since you are all friends.
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then the vote was pointless cause youre gonna get kicked from the raid if u didnt accept.
first he says only mythic guild group then he says no now they should also give it to those guilds in heroic then next thing he’ll say no now we want it in normal also.
he wants it in this btag friends also.
wow you give this guy a finger he takes your entire arm.
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It’s there, in classic.
And if classic had m+ or challenging raids or new content that I didnt do 17 years ago I would be there. But unfortunately it doesnt so im here.