You could also wear 4PC from NH, ToS, or Antorus + 2PC from NH, ToS, or Antorus because tier sets back then were 0/6 slots Head + Shoulder + Back + Chest + Hands + Legs.
To add to the list of things in the current version which are extremely different. so the full list actually looks like
-4PC + 2PC Tier Sets
-2 Legion Legendaries
-Warforged Gear
-Netherlight Crucible
-Concordance of Legionfall +25K Primary Stat
-Artifact Traits which have not been added to the game after Legion. Several of these effects were âcheat deathâ or gladiatorâs medallion type effects.
-Artifact Traits which were added to the game, but nerfed
-Full effect Drums
-More powerful combat potions
-Antorus Trinkets. Things like Khazâgorothâs Courage were MUCH more powerful during Legion.
-Neck enchants like Distant Army, Hidden Satyr, and Ancient Priestess which were much more effective and powerful during their time
I got my MT challenge done without any tier and at 880ILvL, which was low for the time on 4/20 (heh) MONTHS before ToS was even out, so a lot of the bonuses and donât apply to my experience, but I know for a fact when I took my Antorus geared hunter with Concordance to do the MM challenge, it was down in 2 attempts because thatâs how easy it became by the time Legion was nearly over.
Alright, well let me delete this alt druid I got to 33 after maintenance ends. xD New plan, priest.
What I typed out:
You acknowledged the scaling and numbers are different⌠now explain:
Artifact Passives being gone
Artifact Abilities being gone on most specs or toned down significantly
Legendaries not being a thing
Tier bonuses it was tuned around now not being a thing
Certain talents that used to be a thing that you needed to take now arenât available
Some classes have outright lost abilities they used to have available to them
Some classes now have abilities that make them much stronger than they used to be
Netherlight Crucible being gone which also hits artifact passives
Relic Slots not being a thing which ties again to artifact passives
Concordance of the Legionfall not being a thing
Potions and Phials available being much stronger than what we had then
More freedom to optimize stats because youâre not arbitrarily relegating 7 entire slots that you canât afford to change pieces out of. (4 piece tier, Relic, 2 Legendaries)
Access to a wider array of enchants that are more powerful
Do I need to keep going on the differences between now and then or are you able to explain to me how the absence of all of these things, which all tied into the difficulty of the challenge except Netherlight Crucible as it wasnât designed with it in mind actually still somehow constitutes this being viewed as the same challenge and thus worthy of the same rewards on the imbecilic notion that because the mechanics are the same that therefore the entire challenge itself is the same?
Man, I even gave you a list of gameplay differences that I cut short by the way and you actually somehow pulled this alone from it?
I can see why you think the Mage Tower is hard. If youâre struggling to give proper responses to posts with this kind of reading comprehension, I imagine youâre not making heads or tails of the numerous guides for every challenge that make it pedantically simple to do.
Just the sheer fact alone that thereâs no longer an emphasis on bringing specific items to deal with specific aspects of the challenge but instead are now just free slots where you can optimize your secondary stats, enjoying a privilege you did not have back then for 7 specific slots is a huge boost in power to the player because they proceeded to nerf the aspects of the fight that required legendaries to overcome.
A lot of things in this game were âearnedâ but when the game is old enough to legally vote and new generations start playing that werenât alive back then to âearnâ things, they get re-released inevitably.
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Seeing people in the forums say how easy it was to unlock challenge appearances toward the end of legion is funny considering when the content was current people were complaining MT was overtuned. I completed two challenges in legion and 1 post legion and they were both equally challenging for me. I also didnt have a fully unlocked artifact weapon going into the challenges during legion though.
That being said I think if they make MT appearances available again it opens up discussion for bringing back other things like WOD challenge sets and titles that were made unobtainable (i.e. of the black harvest). If one is fair game they all are.
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I hope they never do this. I think things are so much more valuable and respectable when they are no longer available. I honestly wish more things like mounts and titles would be expansion locked like this
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I missed a few, so would I like them back? Heck yeah.
Will they come back? Extremely unlikely.
That said, I think it was a mistake to remove them. Weapons were very limited from Legion, and with a stroke, Blizzard removed a 1/6th of the available options for any spec. It also removed a decent bit of content from the game and reasons to redo it. To the point I think even they regretted this and brought it back in a new form.
Ive never been a big fan of removed content. Yes, itâs prestigious, but having ever-green things for players to potter about and do in their spare time is extremely valuable. Both to the game and to replayability.
Nope and I enjoy having my exclusive pixels that I donât need to see everywhere because others simply donât have them which makes it unique, if anything the game needs MORE limited time exclusives to reward the people playing here and now. Oh and I wanted to highlight the hilarious people in this thread calling out people like me for wanting special pixels when they themselves are crying about wanting them back for the exact same reason.
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Things are not valuable the action is.
That you did it when it was live and hard and completed it is valuable.
The transmog of the thing you will never actually use again is just a neat thing.
Give folk who completed it in legion a feat of strength and put the content back in. Wows lost enough content as it is.
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Give it time. Now that mounts and gear have lost their exclusivity with the trading post, itâs only a matter of time before they release those appearances to try for again.
Nothing is exclusive anymore.
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this again?
Ugh. bring 'em back, put in the trading post, make them 3k tendies, make them pink, done. Have fun.
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Seems to be July 15, 2017. Which sounds about right, I remember resubbing shortly before 7.3 launched and doing a bit of m+ to get gear. Then that one would have been Outlaw Rogue, I remember doing that one specifically because people were telling me the assassination one was a joke and I remember when I got around to doing it just to get the appearance it was a very simple multi dot and kite fight.
To be fair though I was lucky on the Outlaw one because I had Will of Valeera which gave me an inherent heal on top of the damage reduction of feint so I had a lot more sustain and during the intense parts would roll for the leech buff.
How about they make new cool exclusive apprearances and challenges for people to complete. For how insanely popular the mage tower was its ludicrous they havent made a new version of it with new challenges.
I dont get the obsession that some people have with trying to feel special by holding other people back.
I say just throw them on the trading post and let players have at it.
Players have had like 6 years of being a special snowflake, time to open them back up imo.
Although tbh i dont actually want any of them myself.
The only thing i actually believe should definitely happen is that the druid forms get given to all druids new and old, and those who did the mage tower get weapons like everyone else.
Druid forms are just not the same as transmog.
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We should just get them for 25 traders tender. Old content.
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Let them be. A bully. A mean human. Not worth your time.
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