So you are of the mindset that no part of who you are IRL has any influence on what side of the story you would be drawn to in an MMO?
There is zero emotional bias thats involved in picking the side of Truth, Justice and freedom for all. Defender of the innocents! The light!
vs myriad of differences on views the horde offers? Like serious not trolling?
People just are robots who pick factions based on favorable racials and have no other motive or reason?
Kek
I got a bridge to sell you if thats the case
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First of all this is sort of sad and I hope you’re trolling but
Plenty of people pick a faction based on racials, or where their friends are. Why do you think so many PvPers only played alliance back when EMFH was the best PvP racial?
I’m sure for some people, maybe. But most are playing(or have played) both sides, someone like you that has strictly played one faction for years is in the minority. So your argument is narrow minded and pretty silly, and wrong.
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Still doesn’t give those on alliance to attacked horde players for complaining. They have every right just like ya’ll did. Acting like you guys are the only one that have the right to act like 5 yrs old with tantrums over something and saying horde is immature when doing so. That is down right wrong.
I swear, if I see another post of something complaining about being camped by massive opposition groups in warmode and how terrible it is I may start chewing off limbs.
Boycott warmode…is that the same as turning it off???
This.
I think we got a small insight into what the difference was in faction participation in wm by ion saying it was cut in half than what it was yet the alliance still had the 30% bonus. It culd very well be that the horde players have gained an expectation that they cannot be genkd up to now. As an ally this was always on my mind when venturing into the world with wm on and it happened so i perservered. If a huge number of horde turn of wm i think we will see a balance. Wm being horde mode was never blizz intention so i think its ok for horde to turn it off if u r getting genkd. I doubt u will get the buff bcoz of the numbers u have in general being in ur favor so it will pbbly translate to u always having a bit more ppl in wm (not necessarily a lot more for ally to get a bonus buff). Lets wait and see and lets play the game the way it suits each of us and we’ll see where the chips fall.
whats worse …
the carebears that want warmode with the +extra stuff buff or the people that really use it for pvp ?
the ppl that are playing in warmode and are just “there” for WQ are crippling the games fun for pvp
i really dont get the salty horde faction that complains that alliance gets better “this and that stuff” … ITS BECAUSE HORDE OUT NUMBERS ALLIANCE 100-1 seriously horde dominated servers (like 90%of every server) have zero problems progressing because of the pop. … smdh dont WM if dont like it!! , its a pretty simple mechanic …
i really wish they would make hotzones for pvp with the buff or something different , the phasing is a trash system for the WHOLE gaming community / for every server … maybe have random hotzones for pvp and if you wanna go in you have to click or Q to be phased to get into that WM hotzone to get the buffs and with some phased servers, that way people can still idol doing random meaningful nothingness like WQ / collect junk and not be bugged out of WM
i swear it seems people just complain to be complaining about nothing … how about everyone take all this meaningless anger away from WM /+buffs / who get this or that easier …and tell em to fix their derpy expan that is BFA?
yeah I’m totally turning it off, makes no sense getting ganked and actually providing them a reward for it
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It’s just foolish in general to play a game where the odds are stacked against you. That’s not a very efficient way to use your time.
That’s why bonus incentives shouldn’t exist. Also, if it’s not a ‘bonus’ then why does Alliance have an increased percentage of 30%?
Yeah, I’m a PvE’er, I don’t mind a little bit of PvP, I can hold my own in a 3v1, but I don’t enjoy being destroyed by raid groups vs. me.
Alliance keep mentioning the launch of BFA and how they were in our situation, I understand that, but it’s clear to me why, it’s because you only had PvP’ers using WM. Your post is on point when you say PvE players are taking advantage of the bonus incentive and using WM. It brings 2 types of players from Horde to WM, when Alliance only has the 1.
Scroll through this thread and you’ll see alot of Alliance players saying how they don’t use WM and never have or barely ever do. Is that not the reason why you were overwhelmed on launch? Because I know most Horde players gave it a shot at the start, PvE’ers and PvP’ers alike.
Ahahahaha. Alright then. If you say so.
Honestly world pvp was always large groups of one side ganking individuals on the other. Only a few places had large groups on both sides. When the game came out I was on a PVP server and often I would see large groups of hoard in zones that where pvp enabled. The only way to get rid of a PvP camp is to have a group dedicated drive them off. Basically instead of boycotting it you need to form counter raids and kill them off, that use to be something the hoard was good at. Heck guilds use to have dedicated PvP response teams.
If you boycot and people are getting ganked on your side then you are the reason why.
So much horde QQ. It’s like they never knew what it was like to be Alliance for the previous decade. If you are getting camped there is a good chance you are on the wrong battle group. I still get ran over and camped by a 30man horde raid group doing world quests regularly.
I agree they should remove all of the bonus for both factions. There is a reason Alliance get 30%. Horde where getting the 10% without fighting anyone and that was not intended, to fix this Ion wants to get more Alliance into WM and increasing the rewards is the only way he knows how to do that.
The reason we get a quest to kill Horde players is to try and force the people that dislike PvP on the Horde side out of WM to try and fix the pop balance.
Over time this will work but not to the extent he thinks it will.
I think it would be best if he just removed the bonus and added more pvp quests for both factions.
Its suddenly no fun. Odd how it suddenly became no fun, just as they lost the advantage.
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No there’s not. It it would have switched. Remember warmode is tallied by region. Not server or shard or whatever.
The bonus is to make up for time lost to PvPing while leveling or doing WQs, for both factions.
Currently the BG queue timers are:
Horde - 9m for random BG, 10m for random ‘EPIC’ BG, 12m for brawl
Alliance - 2m for random BG, 4m for random ‘EPIC’ BG, 4m for brawl
The difference between the two queues is the best indicator of the split between “Active PvP population” on each faction. Generally, if you are an active PvP participant you would have Warmode enabled. So those queue times, plus the responses that:
-the bonus might drop to 25% for Alliance next week;
-the gap between Alliance and Horde participation was almost halved;
should give you plenty of information about how Warmode ‘balance’ is going.
Ion stated that, at launch, they were seeing a good balance between the two factions with Warmode on. But the sharding tech crapped on everyone and, as a result, a lot of Alliance players just turned it off. So, at launch, no, things were better but they went south quickly. And you know how fast word of mouth travels online, so it didn’t take long for it to snowball. The resulting extra bonus awarded to the least represented faction is Blizzard’s steering mechanism, trying to right the vessel.
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Basic message: Ganking was only cool when the Horde did it.
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No what it is is being fair. As much as we out number the Alliance and as much as they refuse to join WM, fair is fair and they have admitted they should not have done it.
Least they can do is fix their RNG so we stop getting repeat items, than they won’t have to hand out gear.
Why would you do that? Waste an hour for what? So you can continue questing till another shard gets a raid with you? Alliance have a reason to put it on wheras if horde wants gear its instanced pvp or raiding.