Botters WILL NOT be buying boosts. Math Inside

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TLDR: It’s quite simple. The return on investment of buying a boost has to outweigh that of simply buying multiple accounts. It doesn’t. Not even in the first month. It’s far more lucrative to buy multiple accounts and have the bots level themselves.

Let’s say a boost cost twice as much as the sub fee, which is the best case scenario for bots using boosts. $15 month sub, and $30 boost. EDIT: Regardless of the region, the boost will still be at least 2x as expensive as the sub.

At 70, let’s say you can farm 1000g a day as a botter. This number doesn’t really matter, but for simplicity, let’s make it 1000.

It takes roughly 7 days for the bot to get 58. Leveling to 58, you make 100g per day on average or 700g total. Leveling from 58 to 70, takes 5 days, and you make 500g per day on average or 2500g total. (Again, the time is likely shorter. These numbers are in favor of the booster)

Botter1 buys one account, and one boost. So, $45 total. He levels for 5 days, and earns 2500g. He farms for 25 days and makes another 25,000g. Total gold earned is $27,500g.

Botter2 isn’t an idiot, so he just buys 3 accounts instead of paying for a boost. Same $45 initial investment. He spends the first 7 days leveling to 58 and earns 700g * 3 accounts = 2100g. Then he levels to 70, and earns 2500g * 3 accounts = 7,500g. Then he farms the rest of the month, 18 days, and earns 1000g * 18 days * 3 accounts = 54,000g. Total gold earned is 63,600g.

Botter2 earned double the gold with the same initial investment, and next month, they’ll earn 3x as much.

BOTTERS WILL NOT BE BUYING BOOSTS!!!

PS: Even if I were wrong, which I am not, this is also a limited time service. In the long run, it won’t matter at all.

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They will be buying them on foreign accounts at lower rates.

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It literally doesn’t matter what they pay. Let’s say they’re using Argentina accounts, and the sub fee is $4, and the boost is 2x that, so $8.

Intimal investment is $12. But it’s still 1 account + 1 boost vs 3 accounts.

On the flip side, maybe you are one of the people that say they use the wow tokens to fund their game time. Okay. Then the price of the new accounts is LESS than the subscription fee, otherwise they would just pay the sub fee, and the boost is still the same price.

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The idea that botters would buy boosts for 20$-60$ (60 dollars is price of a retail level boost btw) is comical. They can already level in a couple days running a levelbot and be good to go on a cheap venezuelan sub.

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out of curiosity did you adjust for the experience nerf in tbc, making lvling to 58 even faster? 7 days is also kinda slow, but i only know how long it takes me on average to quest to 60

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Hahaha imagine thinking they’d pay for something get free

They have armies of automated leveling bots rolling and you think they’re going to pay!?!?

Might be the absolute weakest argument against boosts.

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The amount of people responding to this thread with no comprehension of basic math and scalability is frightening. How do any of you make financial decisions in the real world?

It doesn’t matter if the sub + boost combo costs $1 or $100, OP has very clearly demonstrated that for the same initial investment the botter can buy more accounts and make more gold in the same timeframe. The boost does not make sense from an initial investment standpoint. It doesn’t matter what the actual numbers are.

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yeah. im not smart so i cant think of a coherent way to put it into words, but basically what ^ said

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As I have already said, that doesn’t matter at all. Regardless of the region, the boost will still be at least 2x as expensive as the sub.

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Some pretty basic things that you forgot to include though. How many hours does the average bot take to hit level 60? 200-275 hours from a quick reference. During those early levels they are not earning significant GPH. Meanwhile in the other camp, starting at 58 you can earn significantly more gph which is more initial profit. This was covered in a popular vid recently regarding boosting.

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If you bothered reading OP’s initial post and made an effort to understand the very basic math you’d have noticed that he addresses this.

The 100g per day average whilst leveling from 1 to 58 is accurate, because from lvl 40+ there are 50g/hour grinds that exist.

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Again, this is all taken into account in OP’s math. Are you trolling? He is using a 30-day timeframe as the basis for his math.

Region does not matter, the initial investment is not worth it because the botter isn’t making more gold with the instant 58.

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The example shows that the initial start up of buying the boost isnt worth it because he could buy 3x as many accounts to bot them.

Sure those 3 bots getting to 70 will be slower than the 1 boost, but they will generate more gold in the long run for the same money.

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What matters is the difference in gold earned between between a boosted and a non-boosted account and that it has a return that exceeds the investment (boost cost) due to the differential in startup earnings. There’s nothing saying you can’t boost and sub to an equal number of accounts. If the investment pays for itself then there’s no reason not to do it aside from the inability to finance initial costs.

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I’m not sure what you don’t understand here. For the cost of 1 boosted account he can have 3 unboosted accounts AND net more gold (and thus more money).

The investment doesn’t pay for itself because in the end he has 1 account instead of 3.

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Hardware limitations. You’re acting as if said botter can will only ever choose subscriptions because they’re cheaper. It cannot have an unlimited number of subscriptions. What do you not understand about hardware that makes you think you can run an unlimited number of wow clients?

Recent ama was showing an example but he ran 100 clients.

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But you are acting like botters will only ever use 1 account.

I think it is much more likely that botters are running multiple accounts over multiple systems.

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They will be the biggest buyers of boosts. And when that happens people like the OP will never admit how wrong they were.

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I understand that you want your favorite YouTuber to be right but there isn’t a reality where 1 boosted account is more profitable than 3 unboosted accounts.

Your recent argument on hardware is moot. Botters run multiple clients across multiple machines. They were running up to 30 clients on one machine over 10 years ago.

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Then lets change the game to where you force botters into the open world where they can be reported by players and further slow down the rate at which they gain gold for selling.

  1. Dungeon boosting made obsolete by rewarding very bad XP (talking like 1 to 10 XP per mob) when the mobs are a set level below the highest level player.

  2. Dungeon XP is nerfed in general where it can still be reasonable if running with a group, but not to the extent that dungeon cleave was gaining. Counterbalance this by making dungeon quests offer more XP for that one time turn in.

  3. No mobs in dungeons have pockets to be picked. Blame there tailors.

  4. Anti-Cheat softward active.

and then we get to:

  1. Get rid of the Level Boost anyways so that players level there characters as they should and thus run into bots to report them for being bots.

Don’t care if players argue if they don’t have the time to be leveling or w/e, they either suck it up and do it or don’t. Feel free to bring back Recruit-a-Friend though for something Blizz can monetize and maybe they can offer TBC TCG loot in an in-game store.

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