Because that’s how it feels. I mean, literally everything they’ve done makes it feel like they want Classic to fail.
I can’t play the damn game like this. I really tried. I want to raid with my guild. I want to enjoy the game, but I just can’t. This isn’t the TBC I played back in the day, that’s 1000% certain.
I can’t speak to all of your servers, but the server I’m on is an absolute joke. I sat outside Coilfang for ten minutes yesterday and spotted at least five bots. There were a couple stealthed rogues stuck on a piece of terrain at level 66 wearing mostly communal gear, tried getting people to come over and report them but everyone else outside the meeting stone were from Chinese guilds. Because that’s a thing on Herod, a “US East” server. Multiple large Chinese guilds.
I respec to farm some gold today, and I guess with Phase 2 announced all the farm bots are back in action, every primal spot I went to was filled in by Hunters with pets that had Chinese letters for their names.
When I ask for advice from guildies about farming gold, they say “pay Blizzard 55$ for a boost then spend 100 hours leveling it up and then maybe you can farm gold effectively, too bad you chose a Healer to help people out!” and yes, it’s 55$ Canadian.
I’m just done with it, and I don’t want to be, but it’s obvious that Blizzard doesn’t want me or people like me around. They’re happy catering to the Chinese market and bots. Average players? We aren’t of their concern. They don’t care about us. They don’t care about the experience we have. All they care about is profit, and the Chinese market brings them more profit.
And the best part is the fanboys on these forums will likely mass report my post again as “trolling”. Good times Blizzard, implement easily abused systems and allow your rabid fanbase to chase anyone with a negative perspective off the forums…
That’s your opinion mate. When I feel like I can’t make gold worth a damn, I mean, to raid I need to keep up with consumables, gems, enchants, etc etc. It’s not crazy expensive, but it’s not dirt cheap either.
I don’t want to grind gold in a Chinese bot arena. That’s about the most unentertaining thing that I could think of. Fighting the tenth Chinese farmbot hunter for spawns is very engaging and compelling content, especially fifteen years later. So at this point I basically think to myself, what the hell am I doing, this isn’t fun, is it really worth the six to eight hours of content I get a week from raiding?
The only thing keeping me playing TBC right now are people that I don’t want to let down more or less. The amount of time I can raid, especially with these limited raids, just isn’t worth having to deal with the rest of this broken game.
So like, sure man. If I could just raid with my guild I would keep playing without a doubt. But knowing that I’m going to have to farm several hours of gold on a regular basis competing against Chinese hunters at every grind location? ( yes I know for a fact that they’re Chinese, Herod has several large Chinese guilds for some reason because Blizzard doesn’t even attempt to region lock NA servers. )
If you don’t think this is an impediment to raiding, I don’t really know what to say. It’s basically the definition of it. I want to raid. There’s an impediment in my way.
Yeah, and if the issues were actually from people knowing the content and not thousands of bots and no region locking ruining the economy I’d tend to agree with you.
Judging by your portrait alone you seem to be raiding just fine. T4 Helm and Chess Shoulders from the looks of it. Consumable are really the only true gold sink among the stuff you listed since they’re the only thing that runs dry, but none of the curry content really requires consumes.
You could also hop to another server. I play on Westfall and haven’t experienced as widespread a bot problem as you’re having.
So basically, financially incentivize Blizzard to not fix problems. Give them money because they’re negligent and fail to enforce their TOS. I dunno man. I get where you’re coming from, but really, all of my problems would be solved if Blizzard just enforced their TOS.
I don’t feel like I’m making a big ask.
And yeah, I’m raiding alright at the moment, but I’m down to 150g at the moment and I need to make some gold to keep up. At this point if I get an upgrade that I need to enchant, I’m going to have to go farm gold and everytime I have a Chinese Hunter tag a mob seconds before I reach it in Enhancement spec I feel like throwing my keyboard out my damned window.
I’m not bad at gold grinding, but my hourly gold income has dropped by more than half in the past month and a bit.
But yeah, again, all my problems would be solved if they just enforced their TOS.
Technically it’s not Blizzard’s fault what Players do.
The botting problem isn’t something Blizzard did, bots exist because they collect gold to sell to players. Which means players are readily buying gold. They’ve offered is a “solution” but remember that many of the people you’ve played with, raided with, grouped with, traded with, etc. are possibly folks whose finances are totally governed by how much they paid a 3rd party for gold.
Blizzard enforces their ToS. Bots do get banned. But that doesn’t remove the incentive players have right now to buy gold. Only thing to do would be to add another incentive: the WoW Token.
Which, incidentally, when that was introduced to China their bot population actually decreased. It didn’t vanish entirely, but a lot of them came over here for new prospects.
Sorry man, but they don’t. I’ve seen no evidence of it. We’re trusting them at their word. Meanwhile I see the same bots. The thing is, even if they do ban them, they clearly only do it once every few months or something at best.
So what they’re doing is giving them incentive. Blizzard has designed this in my opinion to profit off of bots. Ban them every few months, gives the bots enough time to earn enough gold so that they can easily afford a new account and a new boost when they do eventually get banned. Rinse repeat. The bots profit. Blizzard profits. The actual players lose.
Right, but it’s 2021. Blizzard have had literal decades of experience fighting bots. They need to actively bans bots, on a weekly basis at most. They need to flag accounts that purchase boosts and pay more attention to them. Accounts buying boosts at this point in TBC? Come on.
It’s so incredibly easy for them to catch these bots, they just refuse to spend the money to do so. Because, and I mean this very seriously, the only remaining players are people like you who make excuses for Blizzard to absolutely neglect their basic duties and what they’ve sold us.
If they can’t maintain their game services, then they don’t deserve our money. Literal MILLIONS of us have already quit due to numerous reasons, but the basic neglect that Blizzard shows us with this whole failure to address the bots situation really is at the root of the cause of most people leaving. The game has a ton of potential, and Blizzard is cheap and lazy and neglecting it.
And they 100% do NOT enforce their TOS in regards to region locking. There is ZERO effort WHATSOEVER spent making sure that Chinese people play on Chinese servers. Again, highlighted by the several Chinese guilds on Herod.
Nor will you. That’s part of how the system works. Blizzard won’t tell players how they work because that information could be used to take advantage of them in the future.
Correct. But then again, we wouldn’t be playing this game if we didn’t trust them, would we?
If not trust, then why at that point would you continue to pay for play?
If It’s not what you want and might be more akin to an addiction.
Because players are paying them for gold. Our community is part of the problem. Greedy people who punch cc numbers at some third party website they saw in a letter in their mailbox. They would rather do that than go out and farm the primal themselves. Path of least resistance.
Again, just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Just because there’s a bunch of presents under the tree at Christmas doesn’t mean a man in a red suit jumped down the chimney and put them there.
Vote with your wallet. If you feel you’re not getting what you want, then why put up with more? Are you trying to talk yourself out of it? Remember, it’s just a hobby. You put a lot of time an dedication into it, but if it’s not providing you any value then why continue to play it?
100% agree. The ‘Chinese bot’ era is here.
Such a shame a couple of poster boys belittle you with the mansplain that “It’s all fine you bad” line.
Does not work now.
Yes, they do. I know someone who had to take a nine month vacation
from the game because he was caught botting. To get that long of
a ban. He had to have had quite a few bans before that for botting.
So dont tell me they dont ban bots as I know they do.