Bots are ruining the economy, this is insane

Covered a very wide variety of methods used to effectively cheat in game, I even pointed out that I’d be willing to sacrifice a lot to have a clean game. Go back and read; also yes people use bots to partly play their characters in PvP and PvE, it’s not new or anything at all and became very popular around 2015 in WoW, it’s been popular in Fps games long before that. Cheating is so common that many streamers cheat.

Anyway, most of my post was about the AH bots, go have a lookins.

Yep, I’m a “lazy zoomer” because I didn’t play Classic.

These are the people that continue to support Blizzard folks. Room temperature IQ for certain.

That’s amazing advice, see, before you came along, I would just log out and expect random strangers to send gold to my mailbox while I’m not even in game. That’s 100% what I did. It was my strategy. It’s how I got my Epic Flying and a few of my pre-raid BiS crafted items.

Yeah, you just spent 750 hours leveling characters. You’re telling me that brute forcing the gold issue works? That if I just have limitless time I can actually raid four eight hours a week?! All I have to do is spend 750 hours upfront, then I can raid for 8 hours a week?! What a great deal.

Sorry, bud, but if you think that I should have to have three fully leveled characters with maxxed out professions just to keep up with raiding, you never actually played TBC back in the day, that’s all I’m going to say. There’s a slew of insults I could hurl at you, but you’ve insulted yourself enough in your comment here.

You didn’t passively earn gold mongoloid. You spent hundreds of hours leveling alts and arranging your multiple professions to earn you gold. If you think that’s “passively earning gold” you’re worse off than I thought.

Basically, you invested a ridiculous amount of time into this game, and that’s great man. If you had fun along the way, all the power to you. Seriously. But to expect every other player to be as much of a no lifer as you are when it was not required whatsoever back in the day because the economy wasn’t brutalized by bots and there was at least an iota of effort spent on region locking servers… That’s just braindead room temperature IQ nonsense.

So some quick math; I used to earn around 200g an hour farming. 10 hours is 2000g. You’ve spent let’s say 250 hours on each of your three characters, unless one of them is boosted. So let’s say roughly 600 hours on your three toons. Let’s subtract 200 hours for your main character that you raid with. So 400 hours.

I’d have made 80,000 gold in that time frame. Just to be clear here. You don’t “passively” earn gold. You waste a lot of time and likely haven’t made 80,000gold. Maybe you have, who knows. Either way, there’s more than one way to skin a cat. Leveling alts gets you money, but yeah, there’s other ways to make money. Mindlessly leveling characters is not entertaining for me. The reality is that if bots weren’t an issue and the servers were actually region locked, I’d be able to make my 200g an hour and just play on my one character and be perfectly happy.

that was a big fat pile of cringe i stopped reading after awhile, the “i dont have time to do X” is a very weak, very pathetic excuse used by every lazy zoomer retail refugee on this forum, asking for features that will ruin the game. The same excuse given when players buy boosts and gold too, i don’t consider it valid then, nor do i here, if you don’t have the time to do it, don’t, and suck it up.

Also i literally do passively earn gold, not that im going to give you my tricks, you clearly don’t deserve them, just a few purchases here, a few listings there, a bit of free gold every day with a 1minute AH work.

Yes, professions are a key facet of making gold, if you don’t have the right professions, sucks to be you. Stop jumping to wild conclusions as to how i make money, i leveled 2 additional toons over a long period of time, both with different professions that make gold, plus i raided for gkps and did fine, i spent 90% of what i earned in gkps and i still wound up with many thousands of gold left over, more than enough to get what i want.

Stop acting so unbelievably ENTITLED, it’s very unfair that bots and gold buying/selling is ruining this game i agree, but crying that you can’t “make gold” is just cringe. Play-The-Game.

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I just hope that New World will be bot free because i am mighty tired to have to deal with bots everyday. Because. They are. Everywhere.

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are ruining

That plane landed, unloaded, reloaded and took off already my guy. This economy is more blown out than a street walker after a triple shift.

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Not many folks need raw materials now. This happens in every expansion… I expect things will pick up with each phase. New crafting plans will hit, and demand will increase.

That’s definitely an aspect of it that I recognize. I’m not trying to say that the markets don’t fluctuate. However, the prices of almost everything has bottomed out and wherever I go I see bots.

So like, yeah, there’s natural problems occurring, 100%-- and there’s also bots. A lot of them. Maybe not on your server, I can’t speak to that, but on Herod there are a lot of bots and there are numerous videos showing bots all over the place. It’s not anecdotal experience. That many bots is going to effect things.

I don’t know, you’re acting like the concept of markets fluctuating is some kind of hidden knowledge that we’re not already considering and factoring in to the equation.

Will prices rise a bit with Phase 2? Of course, but whatever the prices reach will be lower than they would without bots. The cost of everything now is lower than it would be without bots.

I am 100% entitled as a paying damned customer to experience this game the way it was designed. I agree man, you’re correct, I could play the game way more and eventually make some gold. However, I don’t want to have to grind twice as much as I had to WHEN THIS FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GAME INITIALLY CAME OUT. THAT’S NOT A CRAZY ASK. I’M NOT BEING DEMANDING. WHATSOEVER.

The fact that I have to grind more now than I had to fifteen years ago while earning less… I’m not entitled man. Good on you, and I mean this sincerely, for enjoying the game as much as you have and building up multiple characters. However, what you’re describing shouldn’t be required. Period. It never used to be. So if you think what you’re describing here should be necessary, then you’re the entitled one; because you want TBC Classic to change in ways that suit you personally.

What we’re all experiencing isn’t anywhere close to the actual Burning Crusade.

edit; All I want is for Blizzard to enforce their TOS, and you twist that into me somehow being entitled… Seriously…

There are bots on my server. Do they keep prices down? Sure. However, the players on my server, and I suspect most every other server went nuts through all of classic. If they weren’t farming on their main toon, they had an alt they quickly leveled for farming. We would be remiss if we didn’t put some of the blame on the sweatlords.

  • AoE and instance farms keep the prices for most cloth and enchanting mats low
  • People farmed the hell out of ore and herbs
  • Any spot that was attached to rep was heavily farmed

I know people who leveled 4 tailors early on so they could crank out whatever specialty cloth they wanted. A large portion of Classic happened during a pandemic where people were staying at home a lot more. I’m not saying bots aren’t a problem… They’re not the only problem.

This doesn’t mean that the world isn’t plagued with bots. BOTH can be true! The players can be more efficient and there can also be a ridiculous amount of bots plaguing every farming spot and gathering all kinds of materials inside of dungeons. Players being more efficient is one thing, but there being bots that are constantly online that never stop that are gathering these resources to sell for gold to then sell for money is another.

Stop making excuses that someone just doesn’t know what they are doing to try and discount and downplay the very real problem that bots have created in the game.

God, I love bots and gold farmers.

I’ve looked at some of these click-bait videos and posts whining about how the botting issue is so much worse than Classic Vanilla and I just can’t see it.

On Heartseeker right now:

0 people in BRD.
8 people in Mana Tombs, two of them are Rogues.
18 people in Steamvaults, zero of them are Rogues.
6 level 58’s online, two are Rogues and zero are Hunters.
30 people in Nagrand, four are Hunters.

Where are the bots? I’ve looked on Herod as well because that’s where the OP is and I don’t see this mass of level 58’s and Hunters/Rogues that everyone says is plaguing every server.

Right now on Herod:

10 people in Mana Tombs, two of them are Rogues. It looks like they’re just two leveling groups.
3 level 60 Rogues in BRD.
12 Hunters in Nagrand. They’re all in different guilds except for one.
3 level 70 hunters in Hellfire Peninsula.
16 level 58’s online. Two Hunters and two Rogues.
3 Rogues in Steamvaults. There’s 50+ players in there and one of those three Rogues is in a full guild group.

Sunday at 5:15 P.M.

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coulda just linked the will e video

True, but the video I linked just came out today.

that changes what?

How about you post the video if you care so much :joy:

Yeah, but all the talking heads on YouTube told me they’re everywhere! They did even did reaction videos!

WoW is diiieng!!

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keep simping :rofl:

keep seething :clown_face:

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This guy gets it!

An appropriate and measured response!

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