Well said!
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The problem is the “ban waves”. We don’t need a “ban wave”. We need a “ban tsunami” that repeats every damn day.
It’s NOT HARD to isolate these players. The people acting like these botters have incredibly sophisticated software that’s beyond Blizzards ability to catch are foolish.
Either way, it’s a product we’re paying for and they’re allowing it to be absolutely destroyed by outside influences. It’s their responsibility to solve this problem. If they can’t solve it, they don’t deserve to have customers.
There’s really nothing to say to someone that’s arguing in favor of bots. They’re either trolling or, well, they’re “idiots”. Promoting something that is blatantly against the rules isn’t an argument. It doesn’t have to be considered or humored. It’s a disrespectful stance that spits on the majority of the playerbase, so why would we treat them with respect.
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If gold is inflated so badly, then why do you need a dual spec so much that you’re willing to insult everyone that doesn’t support it?
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Dual specialization just means tanks won’t get their instant groups and healers finally get a chance to compete with tanks and DPS.
Really, I’d love dual spec just for the mere fact that we have less players than TBC. TBCC was never going to achieve the same players and same play time as it did years ago. Dual spec makes sense in every sense.
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Reading is obviously not your strong suite champ.
Did you level up all those characters in TBC, or were the three of them level 60 in Classic?
I didn’t play for Classic, and I started a couple weeks late for TBC. I have spare time to level up an alt now, but… why would I? I don’t trust Blizzard at this point. I don’t want to make a huge time investment just so that I can start to make gold a few months from now, who knows if there will even be a community by that point.
I get what you’re saying though, and yeah, spending another five hundred hours leveling alts is probably a good way to eventually make gold. I’m fine just grinding gold though, but, not for 90~ Gold an hour. I was happy making around 200g an hour before. I don’t need to be rich, I just want to be able to keep up.
Dual Spec would solve all of these problems for me, because it’s honestly the 100g initial investment into “grinding gold” that really just kills all motivation for me at this point. I don’t want to grind gold for eight hours in a row. I want to be able to grind gold for a couple hours in the evening throughout the week. I could easily grind 10 - 12 hours a week that way, but the way the system is set up is that I have to combine all of that farming into one or two sessions or I’m spending 500g on respecs in a single week. All because what, I want to provide a useful role to my guild and help people? Meanwhile useless Rogues can go around farming whatever the hell they want in whatever spec they have? How is that balanced, whatsoever.
This is obviously why Blizzard implemented Dual Spec. The way this is designed and currently implemented makes me play the game less. If I have two hours in the evening, I log off because it’s not worth it to respec.
i have never spent more than 1 hour grinding for anything ‘gold’ related, i just play the game, yes they were all leveled during classic, because i knew leveling old world would be aids in tbc due to lazy zoomers who expect everything to just fall into their laps, like you. It’s fine though, i mostly solo’d, just like i mostly solo’d my other two 70s to max level which was perfectly fine as the questing is fine.
The botting and gold buying and selling etc is the biggest problem and one that blizzard has failed spectacularly on since launch in 2019 and wont be fixing anytime soon. Dual spec is fine, i like it, but i wont advocate for it because retail refugees will never stop there and wont stop until the game is retail, they’re like liberal voters fleeing california, they only bring their cancer with them, they don’t learn.
Level an alt, level useful professions, >>>play the game<<< all you have to do, if somethings not fun don’t do it, or only do it for a little while. I have epic flying on 3 toons and i never directly farmed gold for any of it, i just, played the game, did some tricks, have a few easy to do niches in the economy that botters are too stupid to ever do, and passively earn gold mostly.
it’s a bussines. Thats why we see bots. Thats why they will not ban bots every damn day. I think people do not understad how much ravenue bots are doing.
blizzard doesn’t ban them I don’t blame them
the game is different but also since we’re already on #somechanges, we might as well get dual spec for quality of life.
It’s phase 1.
You have dailies (lots of them) coming in phase 2.
You’ll be making money just fine.
Quit your whining and (stuuuuupid) arguments.
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You fail to realize that primals are used for catch up recipes not actual BiS. BiS is found in the raids, which have been on farm since the first week of TBC release.
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Not an issues on Deviate Delight, we have no bots and everyone is able to farm what ever they need with no issues other then some world pvp at times over some spots with some people
when I say no bots I mean I’ve seen 0 since TBC hit. Maybe we have a Game Master on our server >.>
Have sold over 40,000g worth of things this expansion so far. Haven’t farmed a thing.
Do the quests. Craft things. Make gold. I can’t imagine sitting there killing the same thing over and over to get gold. There are way better ways to do this
How can you be this wrong when you play a mage? Half your BiS gear is crafted, and all of it requires primals.
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While the bots are a problem. The real problem seems to be a lot of people trying to farm gold and very few people buying the things they’re farming.
Other than doing dailies or quests on alts, there aren’t many good sources for raw gold. In Vanilla you could make a lot of gold per hour farming dungeons and just vendoring everything that dropped. In TBC, the only consistent profits are farming items to sell on the AH.
TBC also added significant gold-sinks. I’m poorer right now than I’ve been in nearly two years.
It’s not just bots, it’s also just the fact that players can farm easier with flying, and there is more to primals than zug zugging them in their respective zones.
In about 6 hours I pumped close to 40 more primal shadows into the eco from just mote extracting, and that was with heavy competition for those motes and me spending about 1/3rd of the time watching anime.
Who knows how many primal shadows those other players pumped in from mote extracting, and then apply the same to Air, Water, and Mana.
There is always 3-5 mages below the Horde camp in Zangar mass aoe farming Motes of Life from the bog lords and fungal giants. There is a plethora of Hunters mass farming the arcane mobs in Netherstorm, all in far off corners where they hyper spawn. Are they bots or players, I honestly don’t know.
While bots are a factor and an issue, it’s not only bots. This isn’t 07, players flood the eco for their shot at making some money as well.
The bots are actually farming motes and they do it especially at zones such as Throne of Kil’Jaeden.
The bots are always undergeared hunters even with their boosted trinkets at level 70 and they always farm almost endlessly.
In other words… the ones behind the bots buy the boosting service up to level 58 then go straight into Outland and farm motes starting with shadow at Hellfire Peninsula.
What are you even talking about. Automation of using 1 or 2 abilities the entire fight? I don’t think people are doing that. At all.
its time to broaden your horizon’s about how to make gold.
you can actually. no joke. just buy the mats for some epic craft, get some dude to use his nether to craft it.
then turn around and sell it on trade chat for 100g+