Boosting. Period

dungeon boosts have always been a thing. just usually you was begging for a run through something. now you pay for it as a service.

the whole nochanges crowd are very keen on changing the game.

i saw a nochanges lad the other day that was so bent on keeping the game authentic that he suggested personal loot replacing master loot. because gdkps were ruining the game.

Sprit of the game is minimal.
Look at classic with all the boosters, meta and HPH players.

Spirit of the game is tequila.

Presumably, if you are leveling an alt, you are leveling a class you have never leveled before. Shaman, for example. They use totems. You do not deserve to have totems if you have never done the quests to earn them, IMO. You do not deserve to have a character at level 58 if you have not earned levels 1-57 first, IMO. That’s how RPG’s traditionally work, and for good reason, IMO, and TBC is no exception.

There are plenty of people who would say that getting attunements is tedium. Running dungeons is tedium. Farming consumables is tedium. Raiding is tedium. PvPing is tedium. Should Blizzard give everyone an option to skip everything they think is tedium, and just go straight to the rewards with a credit card and a few mouse clicks? That’s not how TBC was designed to work, IMO.

Spoken like a retail player who wants this game to be more of a single-player experience. F community. Well, retail already offers all of that. But that’s not consistent with vanilla and TBC’s design, which is about fostering community, IMO.

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Stupid presumpition. I’ve been playing since Vanilla. I’ve leveled every class. There are some l enjoy playing other than others.

This isn’t TBC. That was several years ago. This is TBC Classic. They are not the same.

BS. Pathetic non-answer. Try again.

don’t “deserve” totems? there were people who dungeon boosted in classic that read a guide to skip the water totem quest and then dropped it and had no idea where to go to get their totem quest again and QQed up a storm about how “unfair” it was they would never have access to their water totems. #sanctityofclassic, indeed.

idk if it’s “stupid,” but it is a presumption. It might not be accurate to assume that one’s own experience is representative of a multi-million person playerbase, but :woman_shrugging:

Good point? :man_shrugging:

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Its humorous how anti retail you are

Why are these posts getting flagged?

BLIZZARD, dont do boosts, dont kill your game, please, respect your playerbase

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If you think this forum is for discussion, you’re new to the forums. This place is about beating people. Witty zingers. Flagging anything you disagree with.

If someone makes a point you can’t refute…ignore it. Attack them personally. There’s no healthy exchanged of ideas or opinions. Because there is no such thing as an opinion. There’s “I believe this and if you don’t you’re wrong”.

In 16 years on this forum I could count on one hand the number of times someone conceded a point or admitted they were wrong. People will say whatever nonsensical lunacy they can come up with to justify their stance.

Welcome to the WoW forums.

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It’s about tearing down opinions and points that they cannot refute.

Been a forum warrior here all too long to know how it goes, thanks bro.

Oh I know what you mean, been here through it too.
My home server was 95+% anti-flight during the great flight debacle of WoD. I remember seeing any anti-flight post in GD and how they’d all get flagged into the dirt.

100%
It’s why I use the “I Win” button analogy.

Yes if they offered it everyone would take it because that’s how people are wired, fastest, easiest most successful routes only. You’d be insane not to. But just because that button is a free win doesn’t mean it will make the game better.

Also…
I cannot support this comment enough!

He’s not wrong though. You literally said community is “the last refuge of the scoundrel” and that was in response to his statement that an MMORPG is not a single player game. You then followed that with a strawman of those arguing against boosting.
Honestly I could care less for a single 58 boost, no skin off my back as they say, but it’s the fact that I don’t trust Blizzard to leave it at that. I have been around since beg vanilla as well, I defended Blizzard’s decisions for almost 15 years in forums, I got called all kinds of names for it. But eventually I realized that in many cases they can’t be trusted.
If you don’t care about community and want a single player “mmorpg” (because Massively multiplayer somehow can be the same as single player) then maybe, and this is not being used as an insult, retail is it for you.
I came from a retail server known for its community, the community made the game 100x more fun and alive. Guilds worked together to create RP/WPVP events and people spent irl money to faction xfer just to keep the balance as close to 50/50 as possible! Once the sharding and new pvp systems came in it killed that server and killed the game for most of us from it. We had a massive move to Classic and specifically Grob because of it.

reposting my initial response to you as i dont think you’ve addressed it yet:

I’d argue that neither the cash shop, flying or boosts ruined the game but rather the introduction of cross realm lfd, account wide shortcuts, removal of mix and match talent trees and the rise of heirlooms.

Sorry about that.

I can understand that point but at the same time can say I know from experience how it affects it. My home server in retail was 95%ish anti-flight during WoD flight debacle. Mainly because being grounded increased interactions and wpvp as well as making the world feel larger.
Once they added flight it killed a lot of the life in the world in general for our server in the, at the time, new zones.

Curiosity though.
You see heirlooms as a problem yet not boosts and flying? What is the issue with them compared to the others if you mind my asking. Heirlooms do nothing but help speed along the journey much like boosts and flying. Although through different means. I am guessing the lack of gearing up while leveling?

also gutted professions and lowered the need to quest, shop the ah, dungeon run for gear. just decimated it.

personally, i think they should just let you stable your flying mounts at griffon masters, and then you tell the flight master which of your mounts you want, which then takes you on the automated path. trick is to let you dismount at any point along the path, and parachute down. the automated path would have to be adjusted to hit or come near major points/elevations you need access to.

would be particularly fun to remove cosmo-whatever fp in netherstorm and just have the automated mount fly over tempest keep and its dungeons. if you wanna run those, you gotta dismount and parachute precisely or take a dip in the twisting nether. hehe

Someone really needs a Thesaurus.

If you don’t know what a Thesaurus is, start with a dictionary and work your way up. :slight_smile:

Thanks.

yeah no, blizzard is probably going to remove the one time boost at some point because I guarantee you that some people out there are going to complain in some way shape or form to lift the restriction because they “don’t have the time” to play more then one character because leveling is “restrictive” or some BS. It’s not. And don’t get me started on the other things that you’ll need to do to raid and unlock heroics as well. is Blizzard going to offer a boost for that too? as well as profession boosts? Most likely at this rate. Seriously, no boosts, it’s something NO ONE should be pushing for.

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