That long thing you posted about hunters, most of that stuffs pretty niche. You can quest, level and play just fine not knowing that. More importantly, this is apparently IMPOSSIBLE to learn while leveling 58-70? lol
Considering the gold sinks are massive from 60 and beyond the player in question who is intended audience(Newcomer) won’t have the professions gained organically while leveling in the lowbie zones. They won’t be able to do certain instances w/o a flying mount which requires a large portion of gold just to get the 60%. This is just handing newcomers over to gold farmers because they’ve (Blizzard) actively supported cutting out the time via Credit Card.
Ahh yes. I know the first thing I do whenever I try a new game. I IMMEDAITELY go to the RMT and buy gold for a game Idk if I like cause I am new. I also drop another 50$ on boosting a character to endgame (That I am unsure if I even like, cause I am new) your logic makes ZERO sense.
Dailies exist in tbc
TBC drops more gold than classic
Why is this hard to grasp? You’ll have close to 1k just leveling to 70.
If you’re new you’ll feel a bit overwhelmed with the fact the price tag is as massive as it is. You’re not sure where to start and players will buy gold because they’re either not aware of how to make gold or they’re already bypassed content via CC why not do it again? It’s fairly similar to how it is on retail with token purchasing being sold for 300k+ gold but, they were originally bought by someone with real money to sell for in game currency. Players will bypass gold farming just as they do retail and just as they do in Classic.
If it’s already a norm to buy gold in Classic I expect the purchase from “Newcomers” to be an obvious step once they’re left with no farming ability and a broken economy. Dealing with Classic players being at gold cap on multiple characters and Blizzard’s refusal to create new servers is an obvious trap. I don’t doubt Blizzard is licking their lips after Phase1 to introduce tokens to TBC to help alleviate the non-gold farmers and cut out the competition.
at the price tag they won’t see till 70. Where are people logging in at 58 to see they need 5k gold for epic flying? LOL
So let me get this stright. you expect a person who’s never played wow before, and doesn’t know if they like to
1: Sub to the game
2: buy a boosted character
3: Buy 5k worth of gold at however much that is
ALL before they even know if they like the game? Amazing. If someone does that then that’s their financial decision.
Oh, it’s not impossible to learn 58-70, it’s just about playing the class effectively. A booster who doesn’t really know the class can level sure, they can farm, sure, they can raid, sure. But they won’t do it as efficiently as someone who chose to level the class and learn how to play it well while leveling. One of the advantages of getting one skill at a time as you level is you can learn how that skill evolves how you play, what it’s good for, exc. Hunter as another example. When you level from 1-10 not knowing how to play a hunter it is a grind because your stuck in melee most of the time and can’t use your good damage from ranged attacks. Once you get the pet keeping range becomes a lot easier. Then as you level more you get access to slows, traps, exc. That can be used to help you kite a mob if your pet dies, or if it hits so hard it will kill your pet, when you get distracting shot and disengage it helps you learn about aggro management to play aggro tag with your pet vs mobs that will delete your pet (hint, aggro tag is how hunters do dire maul tribute runs solo right now after getting to the king) feign death teaches you how to use traps in combat, exc. Getting one ability at a time by properly leveling can help teach someone how to more effectively play a class in all aspects of the game. Heck I regularly use distracting shot in naxx to pull stuff off of healer aggro on pulls that go wrong (example tank gets pulled by the web spiders before he can get his target and now it’s on healers) and I bring it back to the tank or hold it long enough for him to be between the mob and the healers (kiting).
Or as another example we have had some sooth resists on Instructor Razuvious during set up, this pulls the boss. I distracting shot the boss and aspect of the cheetah run him up the stares and reset him preventing a blood bath to our raid. I have prevented world buff losses from this instance over a dozen times for my guild throughout naxxes life in classic. Iceyviens won’t teach you that. Learning the class by leveling properly is much more valuable than boosting.
You act like they can’t catch up their gathering professions in a week. Seriously? A booster could take herbalism and either mining or skinning, run around blasting anything in their way and be levelled out of Classic content with a week of almost casual play. They can sell all of the mats they gathered over the weekend which makes them gold and start in outlands the next Monday. As they have avoided the worst of the initial rush, they can catch up faster as they are fighting over things with far fewer players. By 3 weeks in, 4 tops, they will be 70 and have enough gold from questing and farming their way to 375 with gathering proffs that they are caught up.
I am sorry, but I just do not understand how people could possibly think even for a second that levelling gathering profs would be either hard or not profitable.
Oh, and as for “who would buy their mats?” Well, there will be a large number of boosts going for non gathering proffs but who have gold from their mains. They will buy mats to level up.
That marketing degree helps even here.
I agree on that, but the simple fact is. This can be learned at ANY time. Start at 58 and level to 70, or 1-70, if a player doesn’t WANT to learn that much about their class no amount of leveling will make them. If a 58 boosts and wants to be good, they’ll learn this from people like you explaining it, other forums or reddit or w/e. The fact is someone paying money for a boost is not correlated to the effort they intend to put in no matter how much you perceive it to be.
There is a price tag of hundreds for the epic mount which I believe they still need before they can even train into 60% flying. They don’t have reputations filled in so there are no discounts at all either. So you’re talking about possibly a day’s worth of time and they already need 900+ gold.
But you’re still missing my point. Why the hell would I drop hundreds of dollars IMMEDIATELY in a game I’ve NEVER even gotten to know I like as a new comer? Not everyone has this terrible financial sense you seem to think they do.
Edit: I forgot preorders exist, you may have a more valid point.
Ah so you gave them a further P2Win option by being a higher level they can just grind mats for professions with zero mob interference right from the gate. They’ll only encounter problems once they hit around 50+ zones when it comes to actual combat but, you just given a new player trade profession advantage.
Yea for all those people buying mid lv azeroth herbs. Oh, right there will be lots, tons of boosters with mains who got gold buying to lv profs No RMT here.
It’s easier to learn the tools of a class when you get the tools one at a time, vs then all being thrown at you at once.
It’s why even in school you learn things one chapter at a time instead of them jumping around teaching you everything in the book in one sitting. Boosts make it harder to learn the finer details of a class because it all gets thrown at you at once, vs one at a time.
Are you new to current game communities? There are $20 cosmetic DLCs day one that people buy. You’re setting up new players with zero professions and gold to rush into TBC content because that’s what Blizzard is advertising to then find out they need 1k gold for an epic mount. A HUGE upgrade in terms of speed and something they will need in order to train in flying eventually. They might afford in once they’ve hit maybe level 66-68 with the gold from quests but, within a short span of time they won’t have enough for flying.
Yea, all the cosmetics people buy, before they know if they like the game. You seem to think people just buy stuff because stuff exists to buy. Who are all these idiots buying RMT stuff for games they don’t like? Your best argument is things like collectors editions. Which wow has tons of :V
Why would a level 58 in questing gear have problems in the level 50 zones that we used to farm in our 50s back in vanilla? This is not pay to win. Technically, dungeon boosts using bought gold are as people pay real money to gold sellers then use that gold to get boosted through dungeons while rolling on boss drops that they actually did nothing to kill. Sorry bro, this is just a boost and nothing more.
LOL. You are either being blatantly ignorant of the past decade or you’re clearly trolling at this point. Every botched release of game involves a special box release netting upwards to hundreds of dollars while a standard box price is $60. People are clearly willing to purchase in game assets with real money before they’ve even started. Fallout76 is an easy example.
So this is comparable to people finding a third party gold selling site and buying gold immediately. There are probably people like this, but you are blowing their numbers WAY iut of propeortion. Your fear is a person who
A: Has never played wow
B: never played an MMO
C: Has excess financial wealth
D: A need for cosmetics
E: Such bad financial restraint they will drop hundreds of dollars on RMT gold out of the gate
These people are pretty specific.
Umm yeah? I don’t agree with the instance AoE boosting. When did I type anything remotely like that. Are you just grasping on failures already in game that Blizzard has failed to address so if it’s all a failure might as well add more fails to the list? Hahahaha good reject logic.
Your other point about questing gear in 50 zones only comes with the problems of mobs attacking you on sight which won’t happen in earlier zones. Giving a clear advantage to boosters when it comes to grinding trade mats.
It’s a lot easier to earn gold in tbc than it is classic.
1k gold in tbc can be easy to make through leveling, then at max level you have dailies. And this is 100% ignoring professions. You can make about 200g a day on dailies, so a week of play and they have epic mount. Another week and they have flying mount.
Yes people could buy gold, but we have people doing that to pay others to level them in dungeom boosting, let alone the other costs that gold can be used for.
Your going by the assumption that if they buy the boost, they WILL buy the gold…