Boomkin nerfed or bugged?

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#sample=1&dataset=99

“worst caster” competing for top dps when played well :clown_face:

Bruh. You’re using 99 parses from a single day, and not reset day when most people are raiding either. The sample size is absolutely miniscule, that’s like 1 person per spec. You’re not getting anything meaningful from this “data.” And I’m confused how they’re “competing for top dps” based even on that woefully inadequate sampling, which shows them squarely in the middle. I agree they’re not as bad as people are acting, but… bruh. What??

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“Top boomies are competing well with other top dps specs. You can’t link that reeeeee”

Sounds like a skill issue :skull:

It literally compares the best boomies to every other dps spec played to its maximum potential and clearly shows boomy is right up there with every other caster besides fire mage. Change the timeline all you like, boomies have been climbing in performance since the bug fix.

Here is 1 week duration…oh look boomy climbs higher LOL:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#sample=7&dataset=99

The best boomies probably cleared the raid on Tuesday. I get why you’re using 1 day of data because that’s all we have since the change, but you’re not really gaining any meaningful insight looking at such a small sample size.

No, man, just stop your moronic internet-man urge to argue for a second and think. Good god. I even agreed with you that boomies aren’t that bad.

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shows logs proving boomies are fine

people cope with every excuse imaginable to refuse acknowledging objective data that contradicts their feelings

Sounds about right for the forums :skull:

I linked 1 week data above as well. Change the timeline on warcraftlogs all you want, boomies have been climbing since the bug fix

It’s funny how not a single person besides me is linking any data to support their claims. They’re just getting mad when I link data and trying to cope with it. Drinknblink even got so upset they decided to make a level 1 alt on my server to try and fish for information from my forum character’s guild so they could log shame me :skull:

Yeah, I agreed with you that boomkin aren’t that bad. I’m just saying, and again I understand why you linked 1 day, that looking at 1 day of 99 parse data isn’t going to give you the clearest picture because that’s a VERY small number of people per spec. I get that you are a very argumentative person, but that’s not my intent here.

Boomkin was 9th in the last week with an aggregate score of 91.09 and 10th in the last day with an aggregate score of 87.33. The fix was a nerf. And you said they were competing for top dps, not exactly what I would say about the 10th best dps spec.

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why won’t you link anything :skull: ?

Oh look, boomy is in line with other dps. If it was a “nerf” then boomy wouldn’t be in a a straight line with other dps:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#aggregate=amount&dataset=99&timespan=1000&sample=1

Because its not a bug fix, its a class mechanic change and a stealth nerf. Eclipse did not reset on pull in original cata.

Being in permanent eclipse state is not how the class is supposed to be played :clown_face:

If it’s a nerf then why are boomies in a straight line with other dps since the change?
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#dataset=99&aggregate=amount&sample=1&timespan=1000

Those numbers are from YOUR links, moron :man_facepalming:

Whether it’s a nerf or a bug fix, why isn’t it documented? Why isn’t it in patch notes or hotfixes?

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Look at that straight line with other dps, no dip at all. I wonder what that means :skull:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#dataset=99&aggregate=amount&sample=1&timespan=1000

As I’ve said before. That’s the only valid thing about the bug fix, lack of communication. It wasn’t a nerf. Boomy is fine. Nerds need to stop raging over asinine things when there are bigger issues like botting and RMT

This wasnt a bug fix. Snapshotting mastery was always how the mechanic worked, we were snapshotting mastery in the original cata. It was however likely to become too strong with current techniques as the phase progressed. Presumably why it was nerfed. The nerf however impacted standard play without the snapshot, and incentivizes skipping trash dps.

That’s not what snapshotting is. Staying in permanent eclipse state is not a snapshot :skull:

Had a chance to raid some more with this change. Wanted to add that the incentive to not dps on trash is not only not fun but frustrating. More impactful on the feel of a raid than I thought it would be. Making sure that one enters a fight at 80 energy but not in solar requires sitting out of eclipse spamming mushrooms on a decent amount of trash over the course of the raid. This results in very low trash dps. Functionally this isn’t the end of the world, but it feels really bad. Like we aren’t allowed to play some of the time.

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“I cant stay in permanent eclipse. Why should I even bother clearing trash?”

Your eclipse state doesnt reset on trash. What are you even talking about :clown_face:

Its a nerf. Eclipse snapshotting mastery was always how it worked, this was a technique in the original cata as well. It was simply projected to become really strong. I agree with removing the extreme snapshotting techniques, the issue is that the way it was done is also a nerf to standard play. And that it wasn’t communication. And it griefs trash dps.

It’s super grief that you can stay in solar in dungeons and in heroics but not in raids. Staying in solar IS NOT A BUG. Not allowing to stay in Solar during raids IS A BUG since we had zero communication from blizzard and does not work like it did in original cata.

No it isn’t

Show me the dip in boomkin performance since the bug fix:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#dataset=99&timespan=1000

Straight line for days LOL :clown_face:

You keep using that word incorrectly. It’s not a snapshot.

Here are all percentiles of dps since bug fix for overall dmg:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1023#aggregate=amount&timespan=1000

Boomkin has been a STRAIGHT LINE the entire time since then. It hasn’t gone down in performance. There is ZERO dip compared to other classes.

Y’all are actually :clown_face: s

What do logs have to with what I said about being able to snapshot while questing/dungeons but not in raids?