Red eyes and highly adept at necromancy which for a banshee to get their bodies back they have to abandon their original magic, which was initially druidic magic, and fully embrace necromancy.
Death Knights on the other hand are mini Lich Kings, 2 different processes entirely.
Can you explain the processes of why that necromancy is so different that youād always end up with a different eye color compared to those who arenāt death knights?
You said that 'Red eyes are the result of a banshee getting their bodies back and abandoning their original druidic magic."
Why is there a difference in eye color when itās done by servants of the lich king? Does the lich king just have a preference for blue eyes? What about the death knights in Warcraft 3 they didnāt even have an eye color associated with them being undead.
If you can provide a lore citation for what youāre saying I think that would dispel a lot of mistrust about what youāre here for in these eye color conversations.
No. It wouldnt dispell any of the mistrust because its not mistrust. Its someone not agreeing with the way they want something to be implemented.
I didnt write the rules to the Warcraft Universe so I dont know or really care what Blizzards reasoning is of why there is a difference in eye color depending on different factors. It doesnt change the fact that eye colors just dont happen randomly. There are some in game limitations to eye colors.
Faces with scars in game wont have blue eyes. Whitemane has blue eyes despite in game they arent blue. You can see her blue eyes in the cinematic when they take Bolvar back to Acherus where she and Nazgrim are carrying him. She has blue eyes. Lord Thorval also has these scars on his face who is the blood trainer for DKās but his Hearthstone card (only real official Blizzard art of Lord Thorval) has blue eyes as well.
But the only anyone can really assume about different eye colors is the process. The process is completely different between Banshees and Death Knights right? Darkfallen as well has only one eye color. Why cant they have blue purple or whatever color they want? They are undead but can only have 1 color of eye. Banshees can only have 1 color of eye, Dkās can only have 1 color of eye.
Death Knights were Arthasā chosen knights. His first words to you is
āAll that I am: anger, cruelty, vengeance - I bestow upon you, my chosen knight. I have granted you immortality so that you may herald in a new, dark age for the Scourge.ā
The SL lore has pointed to our connection with the shadowlands and domination magic as the reasoning for our blue eyes. The shadowlands isnt gone, domination magic isnt gone either. When the opening cinematic happened Ion said ādoes the blue eyes make sense now?ā.
If people want to take it up with blizzard they can. If they think there are holes in it that dont make sense even though many dont care about the lore what so ever then they should take it up with them.
If people want helms, toys or glyphs for customization which is what those systems are for, by all means go for it. They might actually get it as well since they arent demanding for lore to change because of 3 people on the forums that cant be civil acting like others are braindead all the while saying āim not insulting you, just your argumentsā.
You need to present said rules. All youāve doing right is saying āItās the rules.ā without actually providing evidence. What youāre doing right now is not providing an actual evidence or arguments and just making fluff to fill out an āargumentā because you donāt have a point.
Not really, the process of reanimating any being will have a similar process to it. What Iām asking you is to provide evidence that there is a significant amount of difference in the reanimation process that affects oneās eyes. Whatās the reason why it canāt? You say you 'donāt write the loreās ruleās but then speak so confidently that the way the lich king reanimated absolutely give you blue eyes instead of any other color, because reasons of which you have been unable to state. Thatās why people are starting to think youāre here to troll.
To make the counter argument to āWell Death Knights havenāt been able to change their eye color for a long time therefore itās a lore rule.ā - Blizzard has long refused to give additional customizationās for every race and class until fairly recently in the gameās life span.
A similar process doesnt mean exact process. Tiny changes can have drastic differences at the end.
You are also asking for the impossible because Blizzard has never published any rules to their universe. The universe hasnt published its rules to us either but we are using things within our universe to figure out the universe. What you are basically saying is no one is smart enough to connect the dots to actually figure anything out about the WoW universe.
Blizzard did point to a reason as to why DKās have blue eyes which you conveniently ignored from my last post. It was after the opening cinematic where Ion gave us a hint. It has to do with the shadowlands, our connection to it, and from playing in SL we know that connection is with domination magic. Domination magic is blue. Domination magic didnt go away with the defeat of the jailer because he wasnt the creator of it, the helm wasnt giving us the connection to that type of magic, it was that type of magic (according to SL lore) giving us our blue eyes.
You can say you dont agree all you want, but until people come up with a better explanation then dont say im wrong about it.
OH, so you admit you actually are basing this off headcanon and assumptions and not actual lore. Iām glad we can be transparent during these conversations instead of dismissing otherās opinions based off conjecture and personal opinion.
They never specifically stated domination magic, rather, the shadowlands itself is the source of the scourge and the power of which death knights draw. And as weāve seen in shadowlands, there are numerous different eye colors in each zone, ranging from Green, Blue, and of course Red. https://youtu.be/cZOffmHaTvQ?t=472 time stamped.
Until you can make a better argument as to why specifically death knights, especially those who specialize in blood and unholy magics canāt have different eye colors than blue, then donāt say theyāre wrong about it.
Headcanon? No im not admitting that at all. Its actual lore.
Actually, it isnāt. Itās not lore, Kelliste.
Actually, it is lore. You can claim it isnt all you want, but its lore.
Source please so i can go read up on the mandatory blue eyes lore
Actually, no. It isnāt. You can repeat what you said over and over but it just proves you have nothing else to say, because you have no point. Iāve already asked you multiple times to provide citations and proof and you admitted you donāt have any.
In conclusion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUP0N1D1fwM
Show an unholy Dk with green eyes and a blood dk with red then within the game.
Ill wait.
I am picturing you in TBC arguing that DKs can never be a class because they currently dont exist in the game as a class
But Death Knights existed in the story. Where are all these blood death knights with red eyes and unholy dkās with green. And does that mean only Frost dkās can have blue eyes? Does blue mean frost magic? How would you come to that conclusion based on the evidence within the game?
They donāt need to even be specifically unholy or blood death knights. Iād argue you should be able to use blue green or red for any spec.
Also we already showed you Lady Alistra. But you tried to say she was a banshee, with no proof, and there is also troll death knights with green eyes as well.
The reason why youāre considered to be trolling at this point is because you continue to state something that hasnāt been stated in the lore as a fact.
But there was a time before Death Knights were even thought of, so we obviously canāt have them or anything associated with them because they didnāt exist at one point in time.
Why did blood elves never get golden eyes or orcs tattoo customization until recently? I already told you, it was because blizzard didnāt have character customization on their radar until very recently when people were harassing them for it,
You just said blood magic and unholy magic which would mean Blood = red and unholy = green.
So where are they at?
Lady Alistra was the Unholy Dk trainer. So then Unholy = red?