No, I wanna role play as a druid of the claw. I see some nice cheese talents for pvp. 225% bite plus pvp talent plus HotW + convoke.
I can admit they are pretty oppressive to newbies
It is unfortunate I am unable to roll my eyes any harder. Tanks shouldnât have ANY burst in PVP. Whether it can or canât be countered is irrelevant.
I donât care about rating here. If a player is coasting to any level of rating, even 1200, because theyâre playing a tank, then itâs bad for the game. If people playing tanks could just be honest in the conversation, Iâm sure most of us would care substantially less. Itâs that not only do we have to deal with these tanks from time to time, but then we have to hear about why itâs actual tough to play tanks and bla bla bla.
Ah yes, nothing says zug zug like having an unkillable target in arena. Also, saying healers have decimated 2s is pretty funny. Thatâs nothing new. Thatâs 2s.
its the untapped rage of all the unholy dkâs fighting oppresion
Iâm sure theyâll update the weakaura packs eventually.
Iâll be sure to let the healers know that are dying.
Which ones? Usually itâs dime a dozen oblivious solo only dps player.
I have had a few blood dks in my shuffle games now. Almost all of them were running down the healer. Mostly priests, but have seen a Pali and druid get dunked on.
I really donât get if youâre trolling or not atm, but itâs pretty dumb this has to be argued or anyone is defending blood dk burst. Just say you want the game to be awful bro.
BDK having a crumb of burst and still being considerably worse than a class like Hunter really isnât that unreasonable.
Trying to fit in.
I disagree on all counts, Tanks have always been about control and timed burst. You must have started in SL or something.
If a double DPS team in 2v2 has no chance against a Healer/DPS team then the balance is in the gutter
Their overall output has been on par with most other dps while also having half or more healing as the healer⌠even more if targeted.
No they havenât. I played a tank in PvP in arena during wrath⌠back when defense rating was a thing and tanks didnât have bloated stats for mitigation. I played a tank in RBGs from cata through the early part of mop. While warriors had small bursts, it was never enough to take a target down in a few seconds.
Thatâs how itâs always been. If itâs not, itâs just rogue/mage. There have been a few times where hunter/rogue, rogue/ret, and hunter/ret have been a thing. There were some odd double dps comps in 2s during MoP with symbiosis, but still not much. Itâs almost always been healer/dps as the predominant match up.
No.
Youâre lying through your teeth if you state Prot Warriors didnât have burst in WotLK LMAO
I played one to 2400 as one and was able to 3 shot people, it was extremely gear dependent
I have had many matches that say otherwise. Iâll grab some screenshots. I may have some. Iâll check when I get home.
The shield slam hit was big, but thatâs it. They didnât have massive finishing damage. Deadly Calm with OKAY at best. MANCLEAVE was more meme than anything. All the best prot comps still were about the off dps doing the damage and the prot offering utility/peels. The best prot comp was resto druid, disc, prot Pali. Had nothing todo with burst and everything todo with control and mana burns.
All physical lobbies into prot warr or bdk are kind of the exception.
Especially at lower mmrs where nobody adjusts around bg or bdk dmg profile or resource gen.
Oh, and no healing reduction.
Nah, shockwave hit the same as a fully loaded shield bash. Warmane literally removed recklessness affecting it cause the burst was too high
Guess what, Arms was still better because you were actually tankier as arms with Second Wind/Blood Craze. You didnt have to wear as much PvE gear and still did more overall damage with more mobility/consistent damage. That is some awesome and fun balancing right there.
They have to have 100% uptime to come close to achieving half of that. They do have good burst, however. Their overall is more like 50% of a dps.
Oh, so there are exceptions. Neat.
Disagree, but not worth arguing. Your big go was shield slam with reck on a 2 minute cd.
Depends on the lobby and there are plenty of targets they can have near 100% uptime on.
I have already posted this multiple times, but this is bad for the game. BAD. No one should be defending it.
https://imgur.com/0IaZbJE
Yeah, like people ignoring goes and important abilities.
Yeah you were obviously doing it wrong so there is nothing to argue about.
You could easily get a couple Shield Bashes off during that window along with a Shockwave with Sword and Board
Youâve never had 100% armor pen, you went the block value spec which is much worse unless it was the first season before the nerf.