There are 16 parses. A 95% parse is one log. The one log has shadowmourne.
Stop embarrassing yourself. It is not new that Blood DK DPS is a meme.
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You do not know how to read logs. I know, itâs complicated so itâs understandable. Taking raw data and properly interpreting requires an education beyond the 5th grade.
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Is this how you argue with someone that has more knowledge of the game youâre playing than you do?
You speak of retail of some sort of way to insult me. It actually shows how simpleton you are, and how pathetic it is the way you are portraying yourself here in the forums.
Back to you lol. Have you ever wondered that when you press 95 percentile and 100 percentile that it gets the same number?
It must be blast raiding with you. I bet your guild silences the discord just because the likes of you.
Iâm not arguing, Iâm telling you what you are. Which is to say, a low level retail poster hiding because heâs afraid.
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Listen, Iâm done arguing with low level posting characters for the day. You are wrong, completely and utterly.
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Ok so in short:
You are wrong. Everyone tells you you are wrong. You say we are wrong.
OK nice discussion. Thats why people never talk to off-meta people
Yeah, because you are. You donât even know what the word âviableâ means. Open up a dictionary.
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You were, until the point you saw that you lost the argument and said âyouâre badâ. I was like, WTF is this, am I discussing with a spoiled child or something? Am I being punked?
People on this thread have been kind enough to educate you, but youâre so arrogant and ignorant, incapable of learning something or even considering that youâre utterly incorrect even when youâre SHOWN evidences of that.
Your definition of âargumentâ is ludicrous, and so are you.
Everyone has an own definition of viable but the general consensus is that a spec is viable whenever there isnât a competition on that exact spot/class. Frost mage does enough damage to beat every single boss in this game but is completely outshined by arcane and fire (which is one respec away). Sub rogue does enough damage to beat every single boss in the game but is completely outshined by assa and combat (which is one respec away).
Both are considered not viable or even âmemeâ specs.
The same goes for Blood DPS. You can easily respec to the other two specs that does sustainability more damage. It is no way a meme spec but it isnât viable considering what other options you have.
Weâre not discussing anything. I canât educate you, there isnât enough time in the day. You are wrong.
Blood is completely viable and is not down with âGladiatorâ spec. Iâm blocking you now, because arguing with you is going to bring me down to your level. I donât want to be down there.
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So you decided that after being proved that you were wrong, you are not discussing anything.
You have yet to prove that, and you havenât. Best way is to convince your raid leader that you should have a Blood DPS. Your own guild doesnât use one, which is enough proof for me that a reasonable guild will not put a meme spec in their roster, even though they keep a clown like you (youâre either an officer or theyâre desperately in need a holy pally anyway).
I guess ignorance is not the only problem you have, but also lack of basic education. I would suggest to spend less time in world of warcraft (or perhaps forums) and more time reading, it would help enhancing your vocabulary and lesser the need of using google translator to offend people online.
he linked the one fight as a counter example to flamelink i suspect others can be linked as well
In my comment above, I stated I was wrong.
I looked at wrong Blood. Logs breaks it down for Blood tank and Blood DPS.
Blood actual DPS is actually on par with the rest +/- 200 DPS.
Blood w/ Smourne is competitive indeed.
OP wants it roll over into Cataclysm. It simply wonât happen though.
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We can certainly agree on that, upsetting class balance with a whole new spec definitely will not happen
I know it wonât happen, but I really donât think it would be that difficult to implement. One new simple ability and some tier set changes and it would be fine.
Also unless the sims that I use are wrong, even at lower gear levels I would consider Blood Dps to be viable. On the sims I use on all phases of gear it was about 10% give or take behind, maybe a bit more on phase 1. In ICC gear before shadowmourne it is on par with Frost and Unholy, with Shadowmourne, it hypothetically performs greater then both.
Why do you lie so casually and confidently?
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Blood is a GIMP to the raid.
You canât call this crap as âviableâ
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/benediction/mcgroobin
Compared to the other average shadowmourne wielder his damage is laughable. Not only his fights last longer but the damage gap between the other fights that end faster and his is not even that much, which means in a shorter fight his DPS wouldâve abysmally lower than it is right now.
Comparing with a Ret in the very same guild, with similar times:
Ret: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gNMqhjAz2wPc1QpH#fight=12&type=damage-done&source=20 14,399.8
Blood meme dps: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wDP8xdgN3knM6RHV#fight=9&type=damage-done&source=16 12,464.9
Now it would be unfair to him to compare his whole 8:55 Syndragosa fight against someone elseâs 4:47 fight, right?
Well, since Blood DK doesnât have any âexecuteâ ability or talent (unlike frost), we can simple take that his damage will be the same from the beginning to end, right?
Blood meme DPS: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wDP8xdgN3knM6RHV#fight=40&type=damage-done&start=10013991&end=10300694&source=16 7,609.0 (normalized at 4:47 fight duration).
Oh, he missed the BL that would be in the other half of the parse that I didnât select. Letâs get later to the fight and give him bloodlust:
Blood meme dps: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wDP8xdgN3knM6RHV#fight=40&type=damage-done&source=16&start=10262325&end=10549027 6,607.8
Now letâs see the Unholy Chad:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WMR1Ay7pXcJH9krd#fight=35&type=damage-done&source=15 9,769.5
In both scenarios, not only blood did less DPS but also the total damage.
Ok, Iâll anticipate that heâll say that Syndragosa isnât a fair fight for that. Iâll pick another: Festergut.
Blood meme DPS: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wDP8xdgN3knM6RHV#fight=14&type=damage-done&start=2464576&end=2664494&source=16 12,465.5
Unholy Chad:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WMR1Ay7pXcJH9krd#fight=16&type=damage-done&source=15 14,637.2
Again, I normalized the duration of the blood fight to the same of unholy, that gives him a fair assessment.
In average, it does perform 2k-5k less DPS than unholy.
It is a waste of a Shadowmourne to give to a blood DPS, and you would have far more success in your raid with Unholy DK.
It is not even like that the Abomination Might (10% AP) is needed because youâll see in the logs the enhancement shaman.
A blood DK dps is as viable as a Moonkin or Ret was viable in back in Classic. Numbers clearly show that.
Can you clear the content with a Blood DPS, prioritize a shadowmourne just to fulfill his egomaniac tendencies? Of course, it will work.
Also:
https://imgur.com/a/xGIQmKN
The most hilarious part is: his own guild dps is doing so bad that theyâre losing to a subpar meme spec trying really hardâŚ
Itâs amusing how a nonsensical idea for the next expansion can so quickly turn into a pissing contest over one personâs logs
Never change, forums
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