I’m actually a fan of faction war stuff, and even liked it in BfA. But I will admit they’ve kind of done everything they can do with it, and we find ourselves in a great peace and I’m cool with that.
Horde is just more interesting because they have actually morally conflicting characters that lead to a more compelling narrative, and the Alliance is led by a bunch of do gooder try hards. What can I say? haha
Something less boring?
The whole “Horde are more interesting because of moral conflicts” angle is such a doofus way to look at things. These aren’t qualities that are set in stone. Blizzard can easily write morally compelling Alliance characters. There’s nothing stopping them except their own failure.
And I honestly don’t think the Horde deserves any sort of credit for moral complexity. They’re a cartoon villain faction that sometimes forgets who they are long enough to be Red Alliance.
I really don’t think this can be stressed enough. The same people responsible for Horde, are responsible for Alliance. You don’t really have Team Red and Team Blue. You have Team Blizzard and they are responsible for all of this - good, bad, indifferent and otherwise.
Whatever this is, is their doing. They make the choices and they choose the narratives.
There are some amazing stories to be had on Blue Side, but they are consistently overlooked and / or thrown in the trash to keep us in line with such thrilling plotlines as Robot Cat.
Seriously. When looking at the Alliance Roster, Blue side ought to have more moral conflict than the Horde.
That everyone falls in line under whomever happens to be sitting in Stormwind is a failure of the writers.
The Horde has Baine. The Alliance has half a dozen Baines. And the minute one of them decides to do something interesting, the community at large accuses them of being a Dreadlord.
I agree with you that they could and should. But the reality is they haven’t yet.
I am willing to bet that Earthen joining the Horde and thereby deciding to join an endless race war against all other dwarves, which is what the pvp mechanics depend upon, will not be acknowledged by the story at all. There was never any lore for Illidari or Dracthyr joining the factions either it was just lol get grafted onto a political faction because you have to, Orgrimmar/SW guards are psychic and know if you have been hanging out with humans/orcs and will kill you. Sometimes the game refers to Dracthyr and Earthen as “neutral” races, which is wrong because you’re not allowed to be neutral, you have to choose which side of the canonically concluded race war you wanna be on.
I guess world pvp and its associated mechanics like hostile guards in certain towns are just a “legacy” system at this point which nobody really knows what to do with. If the war story is over forever and nobody knows what to do with world pvp then yeah I just wanna be able to play a neutral character who can enter any city without getting murdered
Hmm, five-alt Warbands? This is primo for those of us with only five alts an’ two armor types
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Horde and Alliance both suffered as a result of the faction war. I say this on a Horde character, but sincerely as a factional ambivert. I love both sides and felt both of the pains.
Most Horde players I know HATED being villain batted so hard, because that is not the fantasy of our faction we were introduced to at the game’s inception. Hell, some of the Alliance posters here are ex Horde mains who left for good BECAUSE of the villain batting. So Horde got attention, but in a really toxic way that generally made them feel gross about the Horde, not proud of it.
Most Alliance players I know are sick and tired of being a punching bag only to then be used as a lesson for the one punching them to learn that punching is naughty. The lack of agency or any kind of internal faction plotlines sucks.
One side is dying of starvation, the other is bloated with rotten food and dying of food poisoning. The circumstances suck for both, and Blizzard is to blame for both. Not the players. On either side.
I hope The Last Titan ends with a reorigination or whatever it is, and we get knocked back to level 40 or something in a massive level squish and there’s a huge revamp.
Already huffing the hopium for something 6+ years away 
tbf, I was only a Horde Main because I’m an Elf fanboy and have wanted to roll a WarCraft 2 Elven Ranger since the game launched.
So while I’ll never stop giving Blizzard crap for how Void Elves came about, I’m also not going to sneeze at the fact I can FINALLY play the class and race I’ve wanted to play since 2005.
You know it literally just occurred to me that if not for the level squish, we’d be level 140 right now. 170 by the end of the Worldsoul Saga.
I wonder if they WILL do another level squish, or if we’re going to get up to 100 or so before they worry?
War Within gets us to 80, so if we keep getting 10 levels per expac, The Last Titan will get us to 100.
The Worldsoul Saga “sets up the next 20 years of WoW” – we will definitely get a level squish again.
no more squishes please. Every time they do it they break the game more.
with anduin rapidly aging I am starting to think that this is not the canon explanation of that mysterious “old anduin” future
https://i.imgur.com/w4p5rAR.png
Thought it was a pretty good blizzcon in terms of announcements, was sad to not have the extra panels and stuff since those are always great. I’m pretty excited, game wise, for WoW’s future. I think the le sserafim concert was fun! Hopefully they had a nice.
I do have my complaints, but nothing major outside of the 3 day early access deal with the pre-order. That’s such a scummy tactic and I hate it.
Worked fine for me!
They got my money, so it worked! Well played, Blizzard
An interview today confirmed it. Warband is all your characters.
I like the sound of Arathi as a distinct, archaic human culture as described in this interview
This sort of thing is like what we had in BfA with the Zandalari and Kul Tirans, and it is good for RP servers since “new lore for a race you can actually play/already care about” gets people engaged a lot.
I hope they can do something similar with Earthen as well. The non-fleshy variants of our mortal species haven’t really had cultures of their own in the past, they’re usually just basic servitors to some Titan or elemental realm.
This interview also mentions Dagran has finished his 20 yr crib incubation and hatched into a young adult who we will meet which is neat
I’ve got to believe that WoW 2 is at least in discussion. Every expansion pack has shifted to half-content, half-patching the obsolete systems.