To the people saying we’re part of the problem by suggesting we not pay sub fees while they’re actively not working on the game: You’re objectively wrong.
Saying it’s “just a video game” undermines every good employee who worked on this. It’s a product that was created with promises of content that was already purchased and paid for. We’re not getting our end of the deal and must be compensated for it. All businesses have issues but you don’t shutdown production unless you’re closing shop for good. This industry is no different than any other. The shareholders sure don’t care and will just pull out thus increasing the likelihood of this company being finished.
If you’re angry the devs aren’t doing enough while trying fight for a decent place to work, then yes, you are in the wrong. If you say crap like ‘time to get back to work’, you are in the wrong. It is ‘just a game’. An awesome one, that has taken countless hours to create, but when those servers go down, it’s gone and won’t matter in the long run. So if you care more about a game than people being put in an awful workplace, yes you are in the wrong.
However, if you’re mad at the management and higher-ups because they caused a
horrible problem that’s costing you money and put employees in a bad situation then that’s great. Hell, complain all you want about what it’s costing you.
BUT if you say the devs are costing you money, you are in the wrong
People who have no idea about the inside issues of Blizzard are still effected by content delays, do they somehow not have a right to complain about there being no game to their game?
Telling the customer… THE CUSTOMER… that they don’t have a right to complain, is really stupid. I understand some people… SOME PEOPLE… at Blizzard are going through a hard time right now, but EVERY customer shouldn’t suffer because of it.
The customer shouldn’t bear a cross for your alleged sins, Blizzard. And this goes out to the dev that made the statement, not to any other person at Blizzard.
“Hey like, we’re upset, so we’re not doing work right now, OK? And if you don’t like that, it’s because you’re a bad person!” Five year olds everywhere agree with you. The rest of the adult world wants you to get back to work.
Also… this investigation has been going on for two years… why are they just NOW getting upset about it? Give me a god damned break and get back to work.
what that dude said in a simple tweet was a huge mistake, it’s being taken way out of context imo. he should have known the WoW playerbase takes anything they can and runs with it
You’re objectively wrong, the most factual kind of wrong. It’s ok to want to give your favorite devs a free vacation for things unrelating to many of them, but again it’s not how businesses operate and you belittling the product doesn’t change that it’s a paid for product that they’re obligated to fulfill.
Not only this but harassment has been going on since the dawn of time , yet people act all upset now(when they’re clearly guilty of doing harassment in their lives or standing by doing nothing when they see it)
But now they get all rallied up and upset , guess they ran out of things to bash and found this 2yrs old invistigation and said , there we go
No, actually you are ‘objectively wrong’. This is absolutely how business works, and why there are laws preventing this kind of treatment. You can use vague statement like ‘but this is just how business works’ all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
In what context would it be appropriate to assign a portion of blame on your customers for something that’s clearly not their responsibility to begin with?
If he wanted to say employees are humans too and need to time to process and heal, he should of just done that without the self-righteous finger pointing.
Sorry, but no.
The customer is promised a product, the quality of said product is not in that promise whatsoever.
You may not like what you are purchasing, but that’s part of the deal. You get what you pay for.
The calculus for games and what they’re worth is something like $1 spent for every hour you get out of the game.
You’ve gotten more than your money’s worth.
I think this would have been significantly more appropriate. Just stating you’re not working on your product to see how things play out only makes consumers think you believe the company is going to go under, thus many will jump ship and will contribute to seeing that come to fruition.
Or they could just say they need a week to process this, please understand and we look forward to delivering the product you the consumer paid for after some time to heal as a team.
I am not going to blame or shame anyone that continues to play the game in light of the lawsuit. Each individual must make their own decision. But I feel Taeliesin on youtube made a great point. The game may have been made by certain people at a certain point in history. But it doesn’t belong to them anymore. It belongs to the fans, the community, and the devs who put their blood sweat and (literal) tears into the game working for a company that didn’t value the talent that they had.
I’ve seen a lot of back and forth like this comment…
And I would agree with the general gist of that. I personally feel it’s in bad taste to demand more content/patches in light of the rampant abuse and harassment the devs experienced and current circumstances.
However it’s also incredibly hypocritical when a WoW dev (who I will not name here), makes a tweet how the fans asking for patches are somehow to blame. I’m going to be blunt. You can’t shift the blame onto the playerbase when your own house isn’t even in order. It wasn’t the players that were in positions of power that could have stopped the rampant shameful behavior.
The players are still paying a subscription for a product at the end of the day and as people that are paying money for a product or service? They have every right to ask where there money is being spent. Look at Warcraft 3 reforged. When was the last update for that game? Now that isn’t a subscription game but people still paid money for it. Promised features still aren’t there.
And at the end of the day if the player feels like they aren’t getting what they are paying for? Well they can always unsub. I unsubbed because I can’t imagine playing the game and having fun while knowing what went on. I want there to be accountability. I don’t want Blizzard using my money to defend themselves from legal consequences. That is where I am at right now. Is there a chance I return? Possibly but I want to see real change. Not lame excuses or apologies from executives that had the power to do something but didn’t. I don’t want corporate spin wrapped up in the guise of an apology. I’ve had enough apologies from the likes of J. Allen Brack. I want some real action and accountability. And that starts with Blizzard having it’s day in court.
It’s interesting how this only occurs with WoW.
Almost like there is a dysfunctional relationship between the customers and the company.
Other companies have the exact same problems as Blizzard, yet the relationship is nowhere near as unhealthy.
Maybe it’s because people are emotionally attached to a video game and a company, something that is incredibly unhealthy from a psychological standpoint.
You see phrases like “betrayed” “let down” “ignored”, phrases used in a context to a relationship between two parties on an emotional level.
Then there’s this fantasy that the customer is always right and that because you buy something you somehow believe it gives you power over the company and can make demands, which is absolutely ridiculous.
But I digress.
They’re job as a company is to make a product for customers to buy. The job of the customer is to purchase said product or not.
There’s nothing more to it.
Clearly you must be someone who ties in politics with a decent workplace. I’m assuming you just don’t want to be a part of ‘cancel culture’, so you feel fine being ignorant with this lol
