AH is dead on my server, no alliance … think the last time I check on a weekend night we had 27 people on that where 70
Mootwo, unfotunately I am not sure that you completely understand what actually happened for some servers that had open trransfers. For instance on my server in classic, Incendius (which at one point was one of the highest pop servers), at first there was a high percentage of horde over alliance. Then the open transfers happened, a few large horde guilds left so at a point it was a very good balance, but instead of closing free transfers when the population was balanced they left the transfers open. Hence all of the horde ended up leaving and the awesome PVP server we had was gone and eventually died. I am not sure what blizzard’s end game is in this, because the player pleas for help with the horrible server balances have gone unresolved for almost 2 years. Unfortunately for me it has become a game that is more stressful and pretty much unplayable than enjoyable.
I agree they are counting the paid transfer fees and laughing at themselves. All the while subscriptions are cancelled left and right. In a few months they are going to lose revenue and will inevitably conduct an audit. Suddenly they will conclude that they maximized short term gains at the expense of long term profits.
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They already know that. All they care about is the earnings reports. The goal is to show “growth”. Its not even about money in general its to make sure their quaterly reports are increasingly more positive.
Eventually it all should collapse but unfortunately we, the playerbase, have so little standards, we actually enable this kind of corporate thinking.
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Yeah… Unacceptable. At least merge all the super dead server together . We have 0 alliance and 37 horde on my server . Or let us move for , now I know you guy’s dont like this word. Let us transfer for FREE. Perhaps dead subs will resub just to participate in this free transfer.
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Sure I do. I play the game. I don’t want changes that make it worse for me, and I’ll speak up against them.
Some people would prefer to complain and ask Blizzard for Retail features to be brought to Classic. That, of course, is their prerogative. However, I’m not playing Classic because I prefer Retail and want all its features to be retro-fitted.
“Do something for yourself.” ← saying this is what you’re calling shilling for Blizzard? OK.
Now I understand. Congratulations guys, for beta testing TBC Classic. I’m sure TBC Season of Mastery will come out in the near future. Or not. I don’t care anymore.
And speaking of support, this whole forum is really the biggest joke. This proves the Devs never ever gave a dam about our opinions. For Blizzard to launch “Community Council” instead of playing their own game and reading these forums Blizzard support never listened and DEVS did what ever they wanted, 0% feedback from players. Only making changes when everything hit the fan, past the point of no return.
The Devs are scared. Its only the only explanation that makes sense. They are scared to speak to us because any response won’t be enough. Never enough. I get it. They are so scared that it has to be 100 player council.
Blizzard never had to care because of the monopoly they held on MMO games. Its not 2005. There are so many gaming options I even ask myself, what the hell am I fighting for?
I canceled my WOW subscription back in 2011 because retail had become something unrecognizable and not fun anymore. The release of WOW Classic, I was all in, buying 6 month subscriptions and hoping this time things would be different.
No lessons learned. Not even fork the game into a WOW 2.0 and fix the game. The closest thing to this is Season of Mastery, but I just can’t do that again. Not when I chose to continue TBC and watch this expansion be abandoned and drifting aimlessly because we are all BETA TESTERS.
Brings it all back to the original point, nothing will happen. Nothing will change. TBC is Dead. Why they hell is WOW Classic Season of Mastery even a thing. Why didn’t Blizzard just stay in Classic? I loved classic. TBC Release was rushed for the money and they keep taking it with each server transfer.
Yeah guys, to all, we are just wasting our time. Congrats to provide Blizzard tons of data, I’m sure it will all be deleted. This forum gets purged after 2 months…
So no long term notes are kept. We really just wasting our time. The goal is for posts to disappear. In 2 months it won’t matter because posts are deleted, not archived.
I’m done 100% I don’t care what they do. I’m never coming back. I’m boycotting Blizzard. Even if they produce a masterpiece, I’m not coming back. Nothing was learned after 15+ years of this game’s existence. WOW Classic, watch it all happen again repeating the same mistakes.
I’m done. I kept bumping posts but I don’t have to anymore. TBC is so past the point of no return, released the next phase will just murder the low population realms even more.
Thanks Blizzard for the years of 0% player input. Thanks for never listening. I’m so done.
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Rattlegore here again - every ticket I submit gets the “you should try communicating with the developers on the Forums” canned response.
So here we are - almost 200 posts in, could we get someone to shine a Blue light on us please? There’s plenty of whining/moaning in this thread, but also legitimate complaints from loyal customers.
(or I guess we can just wait for the Community Council, smh)
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Bump. blizzard sucks
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fixed
this party is because I need to write 10words
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“Unethical” or no, this is a basic approach to MMO design. It’s lazy and it makes money.
If you could make the most money with the least effort, would you? If you could invest effort and money on the most surefire return, would you?
It’s super common in free/pay-to-play games where you can play for free, but cash payments for increased leveling speed or gold, etc., is creating a problem and then offering a solution to the problem for cash.
This isn’t new or uncommon, and it’s not illegal or not in keeping with capitalism.
I agree it does suck, but I don’t see much about our socioeconomic reality that doesn’t suck.
I wonder if the powers-that-be at Blizzard are actually hoping that the various iterations of WoW Classic will fail. After all, that’s where the whole “you think you do, but you don’t” idea came from. People in senior management are supposedly visionaries, though I’ve found that’s seldom actually the case.
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I can assure you, nothing that would cost em money is something they “hope” happens.
Classic is a cash cow. Or atleast everytime they launch smth. The paid server transfers alone is a gold mine. Its basically like an additional addon like retail that comes out and everyone buys/plays it.
can’t wait for the deluxe northrend pass for 150 dollars, with a “free” server transfer included to a non dead realm of your choosing.
This wouldn’t surprise me at all and totally fits everything.
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I said nothing about leveling speed or gold. Please don’t put words in my mouth.
The whole way paid server transfers is working out reminds me of how police departments around the country use traffic fines and court fees to help fund their budgets. So it gives them a major financial incentive do the type of enforcement that is the most financially lucrative vs what is best for community safety.
The incentives are ALL wrong.
It seems that blizzard has determined that the only way to prevent undisireable behavior/abuse (un-accountable griefers, or gold sellers) of server transfers is to have a $25 fee per transfer (and there may be other non-$ ways to prevent abuse); then the money charged for server transfers needs to NOT go into blizzard’s profits. It needs to go to the players in the form of discounted subscription fees. So all the money collected by server transfers every month goes into a pool, take that money divide by number of active subscriptions and discount every subscriber by that amount.
In this way server transfers serve their purpose without mis-aligning the financial incentives. Blizzard would earn the exact same amount with or without people utilizing the service.
(This works like carbon fee + dividend so that it doesn’t hurt the poor)
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businesses are simply greedy. a livable wage isnt what they are after, explosive exponential income is what they are after.
the sad thing is that they are shameless. all you can do is accept that this game is dead, unsub and move on. even if everyone quits wow, im still not convinced that they will wake up or change anything. probably just scrap the project and and work on something else.
sadly, hurting them financially and unsubbing is the only way you can truly communicate to these people, unless you are a content creator/streamer.
at this point, WoW will never gain new players. Classic was the last hurrah. they are just milking us as much as they can before it completely dies.
Wanting to still play a dead game is illogical. Non of your in-game assets are worth anything, accept the losses and move on.
Your life and time is the only thing worth anything.
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Not seeing they hate you is equally unacceptable.
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fix it beotches!
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I second this.
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