Blizzard's consistent failures, stop defending them

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It isnt because
WoW has prunned trash classes that make pvp terrible which has been a major complaint for many people who unsub, also thanks to the pruning there;s far less counterplay.

Meanwhile swtor has a ton of abilities, a resource system which if you do mistakes you are useless for a while, a ton of major cds that can save your life multiple times as well as a ton of utility as well as roots, slows, and more effects attached to cooldowns, oh and all those arent on the GCD.

Therefore swtor pvp is objectively better and more skill based, but hey, if you want to pretend like WoW pvp isnt trash and want to lvie in another reality sure xD

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Again, subjective.
Not objective.

Objectively, the best PvP would be the one with the biggest competitive scene which would be WoW, then BDO lol

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LMAO, the more money/popular=best one

Congrats, did you read that in an economy text book? That is why I guess fortnite is the most popular game, cuz it is better in every way xD

Sorry but when it comes to actual skill, swtor blows WoW out of the water in terms of pvp, but hey, keep pretending it is “subjective” when skill complexity and amount are quite objective ;^)

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Dude just stop trying. Ralph just wants something to complain about thats wow related. instead of replying to his garbage we could be talking about something really important. Like how awesome your forum avatar looks!

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Absolutely true, this forced e-sportsization is harmful to the games.

That said, swtor pvp is below garbage. I’m talking like a deranged vagrant’s collection of garbage level of garbage. Stuff you wouldn’t put in your own garbage bin.

What happened to ranked bgs? Oh did they get rid of those? That’s right.

Arenas? Oh those things where your stealthy can just sit around until the timer runs out and you automatically win? Yeah those are fun.

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Actually, the money and the fame go to WoW because it is so enjoyed by the players.
Notice how there are no endorsements for SWTOR pvp?

Fortnite is definitely the most popular (sad to say)

As for skill.

SWTOR wasn’t skill based pvp in the beginning which is one of the reasons why the game died so fast.

Again, complexity and skill are subjective terms and vary from person to person

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Thanks for defending BfA pvp and prunned classes that tons of people have unsubbed for.
Thanks for saying WoW is good because it still has some players though less than FF14
Thanks for saying most popular=best game
Thanks for saying complexity and skill are subjective.

You are a perfect example of blizzard fanperson that shows how blind you people are when people see you from the outside and know WoW has been trash for a while yet you will vehemently defend it a call it a good game xD

That is exactly the point of my threads, to show outside how blind blizzard shills are to blizzard’s failures and why blizzard products will never improve because people like you exist.

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I’m confused. You say you haven’t been playing since before 8.3 dropped but you’re playing as a Panda DK. Didn’t Panda DK’s only become a thing in 8.3?

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Yeah, was planning on playing 8.3 and had prepared enough balance for race change but then I ended up playing Swtor, realizing how much more fun and relaxing it is so decided to stop bothering with the grinds and timegates of WoW, but since I had planned to make that change anyway I changed it so i can have a fabulous forum avatar, not many panda DKs UwU

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that means he pre ordered shadowlands as well, so he clearly plans to play shadowlands :thinking:

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He wasn’t defending anything, he wasn’t saying WoW is Good cause of more players then FF11 (even if that were true, it wouldn’t make it better or worse, it just means more players play it) and he isn’t saying most popular=best game. Please stop deliberately misinterpreting him and get this tribalistic thinking out of your head. Middlegrounds and Nuances can exist. :roll_eyes:

And again, you do realize the same arguments you made can be flipped towards you, right? Again, your playing an EA Game and defending EA,despite them doing more terrible things then Blizzard has done, here using your own Logic. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


You spent your money/gold just to do that? :neutral_face:

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uh no because unlike ralph were not all a bunch of paranoid tin foil wearers trying to convince everyone theyre the only sane person that exists

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But i like my tinfoil helmet. :smile:

It helps cook the bread. :open_mouth: :bread:

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Would it make him happier if those liking BFA listed all the issues they have with it and yet still manage to find enjoyment?

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Why do you think I post here, WoW forums are full of blind loyal fanpeople that posting posts defending the disaster that is blizzard, which makes a perfect example to show to outsiders and people who have been disappointed by WoW and point out how the game wont get better because shills will worship anything blizz gives them

Forums are a great source of blind loyal fan people example trying to defend even the trash that WC3 refunded

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This is definitely false.
There are so many more negative people than there are positive people here, it’s actually sad.

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yeah its good for :bread: how does it do for a brisket? :thinking: im considering making one from pork this week

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People who accept reality and understand the failures and greedyness of blizzard arent an issue to this world, people who want to live in their own dimension, ignore the failures and greedyness to the point of defending factual blatant issues like class design, Grinds and WC3 refunded is another story entirely.

And it is a great way to show outside the kind of people that will worship blizzard even when they are at their lowest

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It must be really sad to be you.
Nobody is defending any of those things, we have all just been in disagreement with your position lol.