Blizzard, talk to your community

Well, since they are making gold in retail to buy tokens to play (or bot or exploit) in Classic, yeah. I’d say it started in retail. Kick em to the curb lol.

Do BGs too. Sick to death of cheats/bots/exploiters in there as well. Let’s just hit all areas of the game and call it a day.

You just literally admitted to me your evidence does not prove what you said it did.

If you want to claim what you think they mean, go ahead. But don’t call it evidence. You don’t have that.

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“I’m not making a claim here, but Blizzard clearly thinks instance farming is an exploit.


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You’re taking my words out of context, as well. That wasn’t directed towards you.

Nothing you said was taken out of context, you disingenuous troll.

No, I’m really not.

Your evidence is the use of the word exploitative. Unless you have some other evidence you’ve been saving?

I find people who claim their opinions as facts insufferable, personally.

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They clearly do hence the Cap. Why have a Cap, if they didn’t think our Community was spamming them, too much?

They were.

Thank you for name calling.

Yes, you are. As I already said that comment was not directed towards you.

Not just the word “exploitative” but the Cap, as well.

What else is there to know? Blizzard seems to think we’re (the Classic Community) is spamming dungeons too much and wants us to stop. I don’t understand what’s so difficult to see here.

My opinions differ from that of Blizz because I don’t consider Dungeon Spamming to be “exploitative”, at all. Just that Blizz seems to think so. If they didn’t they wouldn’t have given us this Cap. Period.

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None of that is evidence, either.

You’re really bad at this. You know they can make bad decisions that have unintended consequences, right?

Feral druids who need MCP and pre bis farmers say otherwise.

Makes about as much sense as seperating the east and west regions for bgs because of a holiday. I mean they only make great and genius decisions you know.

Then explain why 'cause you’re not providing evidence as to why I’m wrong. Just that I am.

Insults are not arguments. Try again.

Never said it was a “smart” decision.

You are attaching your personal, limited viewpoint, on limited available information, as to why they made these decisions. This is not evidence.

And if I were to argue the opposite, it would not be evidence either.

It’s opinion. Stop calling it fact if you want to be taken seriously.

By the way, saying someone isn’t good at something isn’t an insult, either.

It’s evidence to how I came to my conclusion. Is that better for everyone?

Why have the Cap? What’s the point in having a Cap, if -not- to slow us down, in spamming Dungeons? What else could it possibly mean?

I didn’t say it’s a fact. Just that the Cap seems (keyword here) to indicate such. Don’t assume my discussion here as me being all “factual”. It’s all opinion based.

It is. You were attacking me, personally providing nothing substantial to the conversation, at hand.

Yes, much better. Comes off as much less smug and condescending, too.

I’d be inclined to believe your line of thought if this was the blizzard of several years ago. But this blizzard has a history of not listening to feedback, making changes that negatively affect the playerbase in unintended ways, and overall taking the easy way out of a situation rather than developing nuanced solutions that work for more people.

The bottom line for me is, Blizzard would not have been shy about their reasons if they wanted to nerf instance farming. That’s out of character for them. They don’t generally consider exploits ok as long as you do them 30 times a day instead of 31+.

I’m much more inclined to believe they don’t care about instance farming at all, and just didn’t think about how their change affects players.

Of course, this is my opinion. Notice how I didn’t go into several threads claiming I know exactly what blizzard thinks?

You should try that.

Or, people cannot assume what my intentions are, that works, too.

I used the word “seems”, each time. Implying that it’s still an opinion, I formed, myself, based on the evidence, around me.

Or, you know, people can actually read what I’m actually saying instead of assuming what I’m saying. Just like they keep assuming Blizzard is -only- targeting Bots because it’s clear, in what they said, that they’re not.

It’s not -just- about the Bots.

For every 1 of you, there is 100 that are fine with the changes. You know the saying, Don’t let the door…

They get 210 a week

Assuming they can schedule 6 hours a day for meeting the daily reset requirements and that they do 0 raids.

Yes, I am aware of the word exploitative, thank you. I thought we begun our conversation by establishing this could refer to several things, and you have no idea what?

I am well aware it is not just about bots.

You’re welcome.

Agreed. It could mean so many things.

I have an idea. Hence, the reason why I brought up the whole Cap thing.

Perfect. Because some (not all) think it’s -just- about the Bots, when it’s not. I keep chiming in with possible scenarios that isn’t -just- about Bots. So, again, why have the Cap, if not to slow us down?

Let’s have the conversation.