#NoChanges led to everyone stacking world buffed warriors and rogues because that’s what the sweaty private servers did. Yuck.
Blizzard should kill the class stacking meta that is already forming for TBC Classic around Hunters and Warlocks. Blizzard has gotten decent at balancing classes, with every class having at least one spec within 10% of the top ranked DPS in Shadowlands Castle Nathria. Compare this to TBC, where Shamans only do 75% of a hunter’s damage, or Rogues doing 72%.
I doubt Blizzard wants a repeat of what #NoChanges did to WoW Classic’s class population, but they’ll get it again if they don’t nip this class stacking meta in the bud.
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So you basically want them to develop an entirely separate game apart from the game that they’re already struggling to maintain and develop for all because you like your nostalgia.
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So you basically want them to develop an entirely separate game apart from the game that they’re already struggling to maintain and develop for all because you like your nostalgia.
For example, its not hard to just implement a flat increase for Rogue/Shaman damage by 15-20% so that they’re more in-line with the hunters and warlocks. Blizzard should do that across the board with all underperforming specs in TBC - DPS warriors, Ret Paladins, Feral Druids, hell, even mages could use a 10% buff to get them closer to the top tier.
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There’s no class stacking meta in TBC, you can only afford to get maybe 3 of the same spec. TBC is more of a buff stacking meta.
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You don’t pvp or Arena do you?
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Buff and force multiplier stacking. You COULD bring 5 warlocks, or bring 3 and save 2 slots for a elemental shaman and a balance druid due to the massive buffs they can provide to the raid. There’s so much synergy in TBC, it’s going to be great.
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Nope. My pallie, and hunter, and warlock are going to be so 1337 and OP.
BC had a different design philosophy. Classes are not meant to he homogenized reskins like modern retail design. They are unique and each spec brings unique buffs to the table. A shaman, for example, brings alot more to the group than a hunter, and as a tradeoff they bring less raw DPS.
Personally I think BC was one of the highest points of WoW balance, its not perfect, but every spec brings something different to the table that is worth their addition to the team.
Everything does not have to do equal DPS, it needs to bring value. I think current BC balance achieves this.
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Tell that to the 10+ hunters and warlocks I see in recent TBC private server raid kills.
You cant really stack too much with 25 players, not to mention the lost loot will hinder progression if they do.
That ship has sailed my friend. We’re not talking about a bunch of teens and players in their early 20s. We’re dealing with mostly jaded people that are surrounded by time constraints and demands of efficiency now.
I been told for a whole x-pack that i was useless.
YOUR A DRUID ? You wanna dps ? Let me tell you something! The only good thing about that time? its that its about to be over.
Good luck my dude all the prejudice is really something we all say dont affect us but it really does . Getting told that you are useless by and some guy lv 58 when aq 40 geared and at 38 % crit unbuff is hard to take.
I bet you will get those moment too. Some guys dont wanna invite a rogue over a prejudice. Rogue happen to have glaive … Its gonna happen .
I cant wait to be done with it il be honest and
That makes the game boring. TBC is going to blow them away with new subs. I think it’ll be fine.
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I do admit that the idea of Blizzard fluctuating balance among the classes would be interesting. But this would only be specifically done for PvP and would go on the concept of intentional imbalance. Unfortunately I don’t think Blizz would go out of there way to implement a system that changes a classes balance in Arena/Battlegrounds nor consistantly adjust class balance.
I don’t think class stacking will be a thing because all specs are now viable for raiding. Rather than rolling meta classes, I think many people will want to play things like enh, feral cat, ret, boomkin, ele because they have a place in a raid unlike classic vanilla.
balancing warlocks is easy. just bring shadow and flame down from 20% to 15% like it is for mages.
hunters i dont know enough about to pinpoint the problem area.
Bruh… Druids are second worst DPS in TBC. You still won’t be able to DPS because of prejudice - except instead of Rogues and Warriors, it’ll be Hunters and Warlocks.
That’s the problem. Druids, Rogues, Mages, DPS warriors, Shamans, Shadow Priests, and Ret Paladins should all get buffed so that there won’t be any more prejudice. Ghostcrawler’s “Bring the Player, not the Class” motto from Wrath wasn’t a mistake.
Tuning TBC Classic to better fit what people thought back then - that all classes are viable for DPS, not just Hunters and Warlocks - is a good idea.
I think the meta will be different. Remember, Pservers buffed the heck out of their bosses.
An example is Illidan on Pserver has 20 million health. In actual TBC he had 6 million.
Vashj has 7.7 million in actual TBC vs 21.5 million on Pservers.
That is going to severely impact the Hunter/Lock Game. They’re great long term fights to be sure. BUT - other classes were behind them due to length of time on the fights on Pservers.
Given how much shorter fights will be here - Elemental Shaman, Boomkin, Mages will likely perform better (they were still good to begin with in TBC) than they do on Pservers. There won’t be as much of a gap between performance.
Boomkins, Enhance, and Elemental shamans, Spriests, mages all still did excellent DPS. They will still be part of a core raid of 25.
Every raid will have 1 boomkin, 1 resto, 1 enhance 1 elemental and 1 resto shaman OS elemental, and 1 spriest. Most will bring 2 mages. In a group of 25 that’s pretty good diversity.
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