This thread is still going lmao?
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you proved my point
Considering how quickly people outgear normal, it seems like youâd have more healing downtime than uptime unless youâre just cycling through groups of ungeared alts somehow. Last few times I ran normal/heroic I remember more healers in their DPS spec than not.
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Huh? /10char
is it not really. Youâre cherry picking things. Hereâs the reality.
Tank role is to tank. But what good tanks also do thatâs not part of their role is make sure they make a good ball of death of dps to go aoe crazy. They also study the dungeon and try to create routes to make things easier
DPS role is to dps. But good dps will interrupt (theyâre not doing any dps here), off heal to help healer and use defensives to help healer.
Healer role is to heal. But good healer WILL also help the group by throwing dps on downtime.
Call it whatever you want but saying you dont have to is just plain lazy
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I have literally no idea what your point is. However, the statement âHealers either have something to dps or they donâtâ is 100% accurate.
I doubt it. You sure youâre looking at the right person. But I guess any healer can be carried to KSM
Running lower level contents for fun is lazy whats your point? Nobody, not even i am disputing that you will need to put out some dps/stuns int in higher keys. You just want to force that onto everyone else.
and why not. So youâre telling me letâs keep the bads bad by not fixing their issues so that they make the same mistakes as they climb up the ladder? Personally I rather they fix it when big mistakes wont cause you to fail keys
Thats pretty arrogant. Youâll assume to tell people how they play and that they want to climb a ladder on m+. Youâll come on here and promote your toxic agenda under the guise of im just helping the bads improve. stay in your own lane
What even is this post? If youâre running low level content and the people youâre with donât care, do what you like. If youâre running with strangers, put your best effort forward, because itâs the polite thing to do. You doing less demonstrably means they are doing more.
Your posts effectively say âits ok to be lazy when the chance of failure is lowâ. Thatâs a fine ideology to have, provided the people you are playing with share it. It should certainly not be the default. There is every chance that if you are playing with a group of strangers, for SOMEONE in that group, it is their version of difficult content.
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Yes I come here to advice people on how to improve. And it by not doing what youâre saying. Itâs not a guise. If anything it makes the pugging scene that much better that we can all have a good time playing. Unlike you who seems to be happy to keep the bad players doing the same mistake by mis-information
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Youâre being outright disingenuous there. Heriocs arent difficult content for anyone but the most disabled, and carrying someone through there or even a M0 is barely even noticeable. Every run doesnt need to be a like a M+20, youre obviously just trying to be a jerk and im done with you dude.
For all the claims of maliciousness and toxicity youâve made, this is a really not a cool thing to say and I hope you donât mean it as Iâm interpreting it.
All content is going to be difficult for some people. For some, itâs any dungeon. For others, itâs +30s.
Edit: I may have jumped the gun a bit, this was just my gut reaction. Seemed unnecessary.
You called them bads, id say its pretty obvious what kind of person you are, and it isnt the helpful sort.
There are plenty of people on here with difficulties, or accessibility issues, it is fair to say that they can have a hard time depending on the severity. That doesnt mean it cant be easily compensated for by other group members, heroic is that easy for the the vast majority of players.
Well Iâm the the one who called players doing heroic disabled 
I donât see anything in your quote that indicates theyâre trying to remove their capability of adding DPS. Itâs simply that they still want them to prioritize healing, and have things to heal foremost in design. If anything, it seems like they want to include their optimal additions of DPS to the group, but that making sure their healing purpose comes first.
If you want to DPS and off-heal, you should switch to something like a Paladin or a Monkâeffectively the inverse of a Healer that can off-DPS.
Yeah, I admit I jumped the gun a bit. I recognize that people have disabilities (including myself), but it seemed like such a broad, sweeping statement. Yes, disabilities can interfere with what content is accessible to you. But no, those doing heroics and finding it challenging do not necessarily have disabilities.
Tangent over, just wanted to clear that up.
Thats not contextually or factually correct.
I still canât believe that âhealers should do some damage instead of doing nothingâ is a controversial take lmao.
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