I try to be careful, only using such to call those who are coming across as such out.
This is because, since I do raid and do M+, and as such see both/all sides, some might think I am an elitist because I don’t want them to have everything their way.
If you think saying “you’re a joke” is insulting you need thicker skin.
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal
Aside from Nyalotha you have never gotten heroic level gear form solo content.
I mean they act like the definition. You are judging people saying they don’t deserve x.
Like you play other games and they support different playstyles and reward them.
Like CoD. Has solo options and group options.
I think alot of the game would be better appreciated from solo players. Like you do feel powerful with all that premade content gear. Does it make sense the best solo gear is from premade content? Not really.
Do I think it’s right that people disrespect solo players? Or call them names? Or like they should tolerate being gaslighted?
People can say how they feel. This game can support different types of playstyles like they did before. It doesn’t all have to feel forced to enjoy the game.
I am looking forward to what Microsoft will do to make this game enjoyable. And perhaps interested to see if blizzard will change design philosophy next expansion.
It might even bring over casuals from other mmos to try out wow’s fun battle systems for example.
Then let me put it this way:
You: trade off is no weapon this time around
me: the trade off is often in the form of lower ilvl, now you want to add no weapon as another trade off?
If you can’t see that there is more or less 2 trade offs, instead of the normal one, sorry, I am unsure what to say.
Ahem, most of the time, on the solo end, I only do this to the ones coming across as wanting the gear mailed to them. Or the content nerfed so an infant monkey can do it.
I am for solo players getting better gear, maybe via harder content or long grind, but I actually enjoy a challenge. being able to snoozefest my way through solo content is not fun for me, why would I not come down on those who want to take fun away from me?
Some people just don’t understand PR and Marketing sadly. Sentenza clearly showed he doesn’t by thinking he “won” and I “lost” by pointing out that no, E-Sport is not just a buzzword and him linking an article where Ion was very clearly talking around the subject instead of addressing it head on.
Anyone who looks at what Ion said there critically can see he didn’t say it was or wasn’t an E-Sport. He, unsurprisingly since he was a Lawyer before he became a raid developer, lawyer-balled the question.
Edit: Also while I’m pointing out critical thinking skills, if it were just this “organic” event we’d just call it the world first race, no capitals, no emphasis. The Race to World First is very much a marketing title, which is something anyone who has taken a high school level marketing class can tell you. It’s catchy, creates buzz, and grasps audience attention. Just calling it “the world first race” makes it sound, well, normal.
I didn’t mean you in particular. Like I meant people who fit the elitist description.
E-sport mentality is just treating wow like if it was a sport. The competitive angle, and wanting everyone to participate in the competitive angle.
Which I understand. I do like watching overwatch esports matches.
I am not interested in the competitive modes themselves. But I do like seeing what others players do and what I can learn from them.
I have no such feelings for warcraft since they are constantly changing things and have so many borrowed power systems.
The competitive part is nice to watch when you feel like you can do that in like a regular match. And in WoW it’s like a whole ton of grinding to do anything fun at all. Like this expansion forced a story mode to unlock souldbinds… that was just really bad.
Sorry, knee-jerk reaction.
But see, the attitude that gets me labeled as an elitist tends to be along the lines of: “anyone that does more then me is an elitist, anyone that does less then me is a casual” only the ones that do so tend to be the bottom of the casuals so everyone, to them, is an elitist.
MMOs in general tend to reinforce this mentality, or at least the old school ones. I like how ff14 is adapting and like modernizing it to be more inclusive to different playstyles.
But it doesn’t have wow combat. Like I like some of the classes in ff14. But I do enjoy stuff like enh shaman, or demo warlock, or outlaw rogue, shadow priest, resto shaman, surv hunter, and many different specs. Hunter has basically a pokemon pet collection system which is pretty fun.
It’s just limited to get power unless you do group content which honestly sucks the fun out of playing the game sometimes. Especially when people want you to switch to a spec, or preferred if you played another class. Or want you to stick to one class for like months.
Solo play lets you be in charge of everything you do. Wheras group content tends to have others make choices for you which can be unfun sometimes.
Many people feel bad for playing a spec that is considered not meta for example, they will change to a spec to help the raid team or something, and not get to play something they may actually find more fun.
Playing solo is a whole different mentality then group content. And I think this game would benefit from having more playstyles. Group content is nice when you feel like doing it but it gets annoying to have most of your power tied to it.
Shock and horror: The devs want people to play their content.
Might as well scrap this entire thread! They didnt raise squat to 252! Its either 226 gear for Anima, or 246 for farming just one area to collect a few key fragments to make a key, to open a chest that rewards maybe 3-5 of the currency needed to buy a piece of 246 gear!
Such a crying shame, im sticking to Korthia and banging out my 252 soulbinds! You need a stupid amount of rep in ZM to just get the 226 and 239 ones, and did not see any others listed yet on other vendors.
So gear becomes more accessible… what’s wrong with that?
Most people don’t raid just for gear. Most people raid to see the content, to be challenged, and as a social activity.
Your gonna need to grind out the cypher system. And its timegated a bit. It’ll be weeks until you see that gear.
TBH, do not care. They can keep it. Ill go there in ilvl 233 full sockets, and 252 conduits, and still be FAR better off than peeps in the 226 gear. Not even gonna go there for a few days anyways. Not hyped at all.
The rares have been dropping 236 gear. Anyway the cosmetics are also timegated through the cypher system. So your still going to have to grind it out if you want stuff like the new mounts.
Glad we agree.
Doesn’t this go both ways?
Why are you so worried about others getting 265 and 278 gear instead of the 252 from ZM?
Players created the race and push and have campaigned every single tier for over a decade for Blizzard to acknowledge it. That took them 15 years, until BFA, to finally do, and only because they tried to convince some higher level horde guilds to go alliance for hall of fame which didn’t work.
And players made the Race to World first through playermade streaming. Blizzard hasn’t done jack except toss out a few steaming nods the past few tiers, while simultaneously making everything about raiding harder.
That’s pretty much the entire opposite of what you’re saying.
Well what is the problem then?!
Why are they still complaining…