Blizzard Punishing People for Backfilling LFR

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Title says it all. If you backfill an LFR now, you face one of the following:

(a) You cannot get a chance at loot on all the bosses
(b) You have to clear some bosses more than once, but can only loot them once
(c) You get a 30 minute deserter debuff (if you leave after going back to clear the bosses that were already dead when you backfilled)

edit: to add pain to this, you can apparently avoid the punishment by not remaining in the backfilled group (i.e. if you abandon immediately you don’t get the deserter debuff, but if you stay, all of the above still applies.)

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You surprised?

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Yeah that was put in place from the Ara-Kara dweebs bailing on the first boss, but having it apply to LFR as well was certainly a choice, especially when there’s no opt-out for joining in-progress groups.

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Title is wrong.

Queue again. You’re guaranteed to get a fresh wing of one you’ve already partially completed.

You don’t.

There’s no reason, or incentive to leave anyways.

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Hasn’t been this way since MoP ended. Due to people not joining in progress runs.

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That’s not true. They only took away the up front information that you were joining an in progress wing.

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No, but you are.

Okay, so we’re avoiding option (a), now we’re left with (b) or (c) (plus the penalty of another queue)

So you’re suggesting leaving after killing the bosses that were already dead the first queue.

There’s no loot on the remaining bosses (because you killed them first queue). 30 minute penalty is there.

Everything I said is accurate, and everything you said is wrong.

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What is backfilling? My brain isn’t braining today, too focused on a brown recluse that isn’t dead yet

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You aren’t very bright, are you?

So you queue again to finish the content, and are then expected to repeat content you just did to avoid a penalty on group finder.

While this doesn’t affect me remotely, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the problem with this system.

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That’s when you join an in-progress group that lost someone for some reason.

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Thank you!

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What does backfilling mean?

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Joining an already in-progress group

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Uhm… because it’s a massive waste of time?

“You dont have to kill the remaining bosses”
“Why are you leaving before killing the remaining bosses?”

Solid logic there.

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When you break it down one legit “deserter” is able to create a nice long chain of debuffs through out several raids. If a person backfills, requeues does the only boss they can get loot from and leaves, which pulls in another backfill, who requeues does the only boss they can get loot from and leaves… the debuff just keeps getting passed along to innocent backfillers.

The only break in the chain is if someone decides to not queue for the bosses they missed or someone stays for the entirety of the raid killing bosses they can get nothing from.

The people that are defending this system is any good for LFR… are really low IQ or wicked.

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I’m leaning towards wicked.

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I mean this is like saying grass is green and water is wet to me. It has always been this way as far as I’m aware. If you get in a group on the last boss then it’s the queue system working as it always has to fill as needed.

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It was, in fact, not this way before this week. Used to be no (additional, other than needing to queue for the same wing twice) penalty for backfilling LFR prior to Tuesday.

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Youre wrong. If you join a group in progress you complete the run. Then next time you queue you always get a fresh run. Itll never make you run the same boss twice unless you bail on a run you started

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What people are saying here is:

  • You get pulled into an in-progress raid
  • You play that to the end
  • You queue again and get a fresh raid
  • You kill the remaining bosses

You have killed “all the bosses.” You can now:

  • Leave and get a deserter debuff
  • Stay and get 10g from 30 minutes of killing trash mobs
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