Blizzard, please verify the drop rate for Deathcharger's Reins and other mounts

Deathcharger’s Reins’ drop rate was nerfed/buffed/made higher in TBC, and then nerfed/buffed/made higher again in Wrath. I quit playing after Wrath so it might have been nerfed/buffed/made higher even more beyond that point.

Blizzard, please verify ahead of time whether the drop rate for Deathcharger’s Reins is accurate.

Why do I want it to be accurate? The mount was extremely rare with an absurdly low drop rate. The drop rate was low enough that some servers in vanilla didn’t even have a single one of these mounts on it.

Why would I want the mount to be so rare? Because when something is rare, it’s jaw dropping to see.

I never had the great pleasure of having the mount in vanilla, I only got it in Wrath after it was nerfed/buffed/made higher twice. There was however a paladin on my realm who had the mount. Every time I saw this guy on this mount, it struck me. Whatever I was doing, I would stop just to look at him.

The awe of seeing the mount nowadays is likely lost due to having seen it so often in retail, but when I see one running past in Classic, I want to know that it was obtained through insane odds.

Thanks!

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They are like 0.1%

They are super rare, and hard as hell to get. Good luck.

***We are using the 1.13 client so it will be that drop rate based on the game file/data

1.13 client is patch 1.12 data. The mount was still insanely rare in 1.12, as it should be.

Also I think if you read my post, you’d notice that I’m saying I want it to be insanely rare as it was back then. Also no indication that I’m trying to get this mount myself.

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It was nerfed (wait, buffed?) by the time of WotLK for sure, but still a rare drop. I remember my RL friend getting it on his first strat run after leaving the DK zone in Wrath. A few months later he deleted that DK and rerolled another one (don’t ask, I still have no answers).

Back then that crap was still tied to your character. I was at a loss of words.

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from what I remember it was buffed from 1/1000 to 1/100

I edited my OP to say “nerfed/buffed/made higher” for my incorrect language before.

The goal of my post is that I want DCR to be at its original drop rate, which was extremely low.

I was super interested in the mount around late Vanilla and early TBC, I finally got it in after the buff in wrath, but from the research I originally done, again the drop rate was around 0.10% in vanilla.

0.07% for the deathchargers reins.
0.10% for the raptor and tiger.

Those numbers were from thottbot and what started me on the path of many mounts.

Oh that tiger. I’m hoping to get it.

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I neither assumed or alluded to the fact of which you want or dont want that.

And “client” is the patch. its the 1.13.1 version of the client.

Thank you, have a good day.

I wished you luck is all :joy:

If it really is 0.1% drop rate, that’s 1 in 1000. ZG is a bi-weekly reset, so if you run ZG as often as possible, it will take on average 500 weeks to see it (or almost 10 years).

And then when it drops, you have to roll against 19 other people for it.

it was extremely rare, even more so than the epic two-handed sword [Runeblade of Baron Rivendare].

  • Cataclysm-Logo-Small Patch 4.1.0 (26-Apr-2011): Potentially contained in [Satchel of Exotic Mysteries]ω ϖ , but rarer chance at around 0.1%.

  • Bc icon/Wrath-Logo-Small Patch 3.0.2 (14-Oct-2008): Drop rate increased from 0.02% to 1%.

  • Bc icon Patch 2.0.3 (09-Jan-2007): Changed to an epic from rare.

  • WoW Icon 16x16 Patch 1.3.0 (07-Mar-2005): Deathcharger’s Reins can now be used by Tauren

What i got from wowwiki for those who are curious, i think there was an undocumented change, but i do agree with the OP rare is better since people are always gonna run strat one day or another, and classic ain’t going away

Hope this helps.

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The difference between the ZG mounts and the rare Strat drops from Baron is that you can technically run Strat 35 times per week, whereas ZG is just twice.
And give that you’re rolling as 1 in 5 instead of 1 in 20, an obsessed WoW player has a 50 times greater chance of getting Rivendare’s mount than a ZG mount.

I am pretty sure drop tables are based on the database data, so since classic is using the database from 1.12 it should be the drop chance from 1.12. Most of the differences are in places that are controlled by systems other than the database.

My raid leader and I and a few others in my guild farmed for it pretty much non stop and never saw it.

Just one of those things. Every once in a while you will get lucky. Well not you. But some random guy on your server who you will get to be jealous of.

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zg was a 40 man right? im not 100%. but yes, i get what your saying, i can dream too! lol

ZG was a 20 man raid,

It took me 100 runs over 2 days to finally get that mount on retail…

But now I have to imagine what it will be like doing that dungeon at level 60 and competing with 10 other players… it’s going to be impossible to farm for, you’ll just have to hope you get lucky in a group run someday.

I think dreams are great! But at the same time, I hope that your expectations are set properly. If you get it, you might be the only guy on the server with it.

I love my barons death charger.