??? I literally talked about spec representation vs other lower-end specs, I don’t know what phantom version of me you’re talking to.
Telling me I don’t have it right “upstairs” but talking on points I never made? Yikes
Ya I know and I countered giving reasons why they are lower. I also gave reasons it makes no sense to have enhancement at DPS range to be so low in PvP representation. And for not being upstairs. Has to do with why are you hating on a class that you are playing… Wow are you 12 or something, you debate like a child.
I’m not debating you I’m trying to grasp why you responded to me with points that I literally never brought up.
None of the specs you mentioned are the ones I was talking about either. You’re essentially just seeking some sort of argument that isn’t even present lmao
…nor was anyone really talking about PvP in the first place in which obviously yes enhancement has low representation.
Sub, Arcane, MM and Demo the specs that you mentioned. All have other classes that are insanely better. Which I stated above to why they are so low. Outside of MM having a high DPS. Enhance does not get the representation it should have with its DPS ranking. Which I stated above. I also mentioned all them specs have better heals than Enhance. Elemental has better armor and defense than its melee counterpart. I also stated for 15 a month no class/spec should not be considered.
Thanen’s little brother?
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dont bother getting it to it with Faminex he doesnt play enhancement he just loot spec switches while he does m+ as ele.he has never started a patch as enhance.
he defends a spec he doesnt play.
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I mean it seems like it. All I did was point out that “enh is the least played spec” was wrong and this dude went on a tangent.
desperate for anyone to agree with you?
Enhance is a clunkfest. It relies on the same thing frost mages rely on, which are proc’s. Without stormbringer proc’s, enhance is nothing. It feels like a really bad clunky version of combat rogue or fury warrior.
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this i wouldnt recommend ANYONE to play a shaman in its current state.
figures that due to the fact the person has no clue what he is talking about, doesn’t play a shaman, and doesn’t play any content, this should be a golden endorsement to play a shaman
dont leave out that all you play is elemental and wont ever start a patch out as playing enhancement grinding that io score.
you just loot spec switch for enhance gear just like now.
That would be surv hunter. There are more enhance than surv.
This post is scaring me from jumping backon my Shaman Main, who was a crazy dual wield enhance shamy.
if you havent played in a long while you would be like wtf did they do to enhancement.
Just to avoid dissuading newcomers to the forum/class, I need to say a few things:
- Yes, Enhancement needs some tweaks to its fundamental design.
- No, it isn’t “bad, really bad.”
- It’s really fun and with enough gear you can do a lot of damage in raids, M+, and even casual BGs, and even duel some of the stronger specs in WPvP and arena scenarios.
I find the biggest issues with Enhancement, in both PvE and PvP, are the following: a) slow DPS and PvP CC/defense ramp up, b) non-impactful button presses, c) PvE versatility means PvP clunkiness.
All of these issues are directly related to each other, which is why people often feel the entire spec needs a rework. In actuality, combining some effects and abilities and moving power out of Stormstrike/Stormbringer and into other attacks would be able to resolve all 3 issues in one fell swoop.
I’m cautiously hopeful new talents, Covenant abilities, and the reintroduction of legendaries in Shadowlands will all improve Enhancement at a similar magnitude to how BfA improved the core spec (loss of Artifact aside) after Legion.
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Oh no here he goes again 
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Wrong I main enh start and stop every exp as enh. Stop spreading lies.
In pve it’s fine for sure. Sure dhs/rogues bring more but we aren’t the only melee in that camp. Our damage is good and our utility decent.
PvP though? We cannot duel the stronger specs lol… We can duel the average ones maybe. Dh/rogue/ww will absolutely murder you if they’re even half competent. We can litteraly play turbo and that’s it right now and that’s still a super sub par comp.
Everything about it feels clunky. Seriously give me back any version of enhance that comes from before legion. This version feels bad to play (especially in PvP).
Unfortunately I can’t get behind anything other than monk so I’m stuck playing it and remembering better times.
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The problem with this is that most melee are now one trick ponies. In other words, 50% of damage comes from one ability (including procs to buff etc). Ret, UHDK, ENH, AssRogue, I digress.
Hopefully when the do open beta for SL we will see damage being split to other abilities you press. Currently it just feels like a time sink until your main damaging ability is pressable again to do damage. Messing up that rotation/priority feels like there isnt much of a penalty to it.
As for ranged, Destro and Fire Mage feel strong because they feel how casters should actually feel outside of DoT casters. You should get punished for bad positioning, you should get punished for making mistakes. Ele used to feel that way, but does not hence why they are not considered elite. I could say the same for boomie, frost mage, etc.
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