Perma human form sounds so boring. Might as well play a mage at that point
Oh ya I absolutely agree. It’s insane they aren’t seperate. Also makes no sense that the tier sets aren’t coloured to match any of the skin colours you can pick in dragon form.
the fact a armor that can only be used by this 1 race isnt available nore do the colors tie into the skin colors or the armor colors we have in the dressing room is insane. all evoker tier should be thrown in the dressing room armor crap that we have since our choices are so limited while also not going with any armor. like they started out decent with evoker giving them some armor options even if it didnt go with tier colors it went with your skin colors but its been 2 years of this now
??? Ever heard about half-dragon aesthetic? Ever seen the dragon aspects being their dragoony-selves even in their human form? Your comparison would make more sense if someone who played DH disliked the metamorphosis, but that wouldn’t exclude the whole class identity rofl.
Remove the demonic part of the demon hunter and you will have just a generic fighter with nothing special. Remove the draconic part of the evoker, and you will have just a generic mage with nothing special, it’s simple. The theme of the class is to be a dragon; if you don’t want to be a dragon, don’t play as an evoker. I don’t play as a druid because I don’t want to be a beast, but that doesn’t mean I think that part of the class should be removed.
There are several classes in the game, some quite similar to others either thematically or in gameplay. Some classes even get lost due to lacking a unique concept. The evoker manages to remain unique mainly because it is a dragon. Changing or diminishing this in any way would make it generic and meaningless.
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that glyph is just as uggo.
I would like to be like resto, not in a form unless i want to.
i already play balance this way but a better glyph would be nice.
i mean god forbid someone likes the gameplay of a class which benefits from many new mechanics but dislikes the comical and grotesque character model required to play the class. the aspects use magic in their visage form all the time. the lore of the race and class is that there isn’t any. they woke up in a cave and were pretty immediately repurposed for combat. simple as. to the extent that they almost assuredly won’t be getting any new lore in the foreseeable future it definitely doesn’t matter whether it’s an elf or a gnome or a dracthyr who happens to be casting the spells.
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Well, seeing your comment, it’s easy to deduce that you know nothing about the tradition of the class or the race. Evokers will always be dracthyr, and the best you can do is accept things as they are. If you don’t want to be a draconic being, don’t play a draconic class.
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Evokers should be allowed to be any race in visage as recompense for the terrible humanoid dragon form and lack of visible transmog.
We expected dragons and got the cheap knockoff because unfortunately whoever are the primary decision makers at HQ think they know what will drive their bottom line, but they fundamentally don’t understand what the players want.
Players have asked for:
- Dragons (unfulfilled)
- Drakonoid (unfulfilled)
- Ogres (unfulfilled)
- Expanded race identity and a deeper focus on character customization (unfulfilled)
- Cross over class identity (unfulfilled)
- Updated armor models such as full body cloaks, weapon animations and more race specific animations (unfulfilled)
Frankly, I can’t get a grasp on their priority system but it seems almost arbitrary. Why do players consistently receive things that they didn’t ask for?
- No one asked for Vulpera
- No one asked for Void Elves
- No one asked for Mechagnomes
- No one asked for their classes and specs to be butchered and restructured to make way for another class addition (it should not be impossible to share identity across classes)
Honestly, I don’t get it. Why does it take so long to address long requested desires and why are we always subjected to adverse class change that we often don’t ask for in a game that we pay for?
I don’t think voting with a wallet would solve this issue because it doesn’t address it - it cowers and goes else where to another abuser.
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there is no tradition. they’re a group of experiments made by deathwing (edit: and all their lore is waffle and hogwash made up for the expansion relevant to them, they’re not some deep-seated part of any part of wider lore in any way). the most nuanced their lore got was breaking the infinity gauntlet of control, which was already an irrelevant plot point as the dracthyr had attained autonomy by that point. there’s actually no reason the writers couldn’t snap their fingers and say “hey, mages have discovered a way to replicate the magic used by the dracthyr such that virtually anyone can wield it,” because the “draconic” magic is actually all titanic in its origin.
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What you say doesn’t even make sense. Even though their tradition is recent and not very numerous, it exists and should be respected. If you don’t want to be a Dracthyr, then don’t be. Go play with mages or something else; there are plenty of good classes to play out there. Besides, just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it silly.
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i don’t think you understand what i’m saying. your replies do not indicate that you do; i therefore doubt that continuing this exchange will be tremendously productive. none of the magic or abilities which you seem to think are part of the draconic “tradition” are actually draconic in nature. therefore, there is no sensible reason why said magic or abilities would be inaccessible to literally any other race. the dracthyr were kept in storage for thousands of years, their history doesn’t cover more than a few paragraphs of text when written out. it’s shallow lore, in point of simple fact. i simply enjoy the gameplay of the class and wish i didn’t have to look like an overgrown gecko while playing it. it’s truly not a big deal lmfao
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The issue is simple: if you don’t want to be a Dracthyr, don’t play as an Evoker.
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your thinking about the issue certainly is simple. i don’t really think there’s much more to say.
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Speak for yourself, I hate the human form lol. 10/10 never use it
I would like this option personally, more freedom is always good. Our visage forms are a huge part of being Dracthyr for some reason I don’t understand, so I’d like more freedom to choose how it works for us even if I might not use it myself.
I don’t hate Dracthyr as a race but the run animation is goofy, and I have a real problem with how transmog works for the race. I’d also love more color options for our barbershop armor as their are so few shoulders and belts that match it.
Blizzard made such a huge mistake by not making tier sets that show up on our Dracthyr forms or at least unlock new barbershop armor options. What I want the most with Dracthyr is to have our Visage, and Dracthyr forms each have a separate transmog slot so we can look good in both forms rather than needing to choose one to sacrifice for the most part. Just having belts and shoulders show up, and forcing it to be shared between both forms was not a good idea.
That said I love the fantasy with soar and breath attacks so the majority of the time I’d probably keep it how it is now and just use visage form out of combat.
From my understanding, the other classes Dracthyr is getting will be able to fight in their visage forms. Now that makes less sense for Evokers with some of our spells as we are taking advantage of our biology but all they would need to do is transform us for the breath attacks, VE, and the like till they end. Not the best solution but I don’t think it’s realistic to expect them to make new animations for those spells to look decent in our Visage form.
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blizzard dropped the ball big time when it came to transmog. none of the barber shop armors go with our tier sets and you would think that at least our tier set which is armor that is for us only would be something that shows up in our lizard form but no its still just belts and shoulders which i still stand by the thought that its a stupid restriction. i would probably hate the lizard form so much less if it didnt restrict 95% of all transmogging. most evokers i see me included use all the different toys to change how we look. if everyones doing this then obviously its a small group that like this lanky lizard. its not like its game breaking to use abilities like fire breath as a vulpera. sure it might look weird but it still isnt hurting anyone. i wouldnt even mind if like you said we swap back just for stuff like breath and ve and then go right back
blizzard dropped the ball big time when it came to transmog
That doesnt only apply to Draktyr but to all of WoW, all of these restrictions we still have in place for no reason at all (Cross armor type xmog / holiday xmog / cross weapon xmog / etc).
Bad xmog is the main reason I still spam use the anniversary murloc wand and will most likely roll enchanting come TWW to use the Gleeful Glamour items to change race.
For reference:
(Anniversary wand, costs 5 timewalking tokens, one hour duration, five charges, can be used on self)
(New enchanting item in TWW, there’s one for every race, including earthen, it does have a maximum of one hour duration with a two hour cooldown, cause fun is bad (been sending feedback to get the cooldown lowered since early alpha but they just refuse to listen))
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This would alleviate the problem.
Where did you see the 2hr cooldown? I don’t see that anywhere