Blizzard on mount equipment: *Running wild, Druid Travel Forms will not benefit*

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And mount equipment is an entirely new concept that when introduced into the current class fantasy would make druids (who already have the best mounting ability bar none) even more insane in the mount category.

That has nothing to do with mount equipment. You’re cherry picking your argument (like it’s hilarious how you try bringing up your troll druid when your night elf can effectively vanish via shadowmeld prowl). The topic is why you can’t put mount equipment on your druid. Not the current class balance of the game…

Sorry for staying on subject unlike you?

As a wPvPer it is legitimate bull crap that when I’m about to kill a druid they can shadowmeld/fly away and there’s nothing I can do. Sure, you’re going to make the argument that I can vanish because you cherry pick which I won’t argue and you will completely ignore the point YOU posed which was:

Which it has when I get denied kills just because you can break combat and instant mount away.

Please avoid emojis, they make your argument weaker and you’re already scraping the bottom of the barrel…

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its a stupid ability.
We have mounts. we dont need the running wild since it has the same casting time as a mount does. Why would anyone even bother with it, especially now that its going to be far more limited than using an actual mount.
They should just remove the joke ability from the race and be done with it. It serves no purpose but to annoy players who would like the racial abilities to actually make sense.

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Agreed. It just makes no sense. No sense at all. If all other racial mounts get mount equipment, so should worgen. If Blizz is so keen on it only being in the mount tab, then take it out of the spellbook and put it in the mount tab.

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Mount equip still works on Running Wild. Since it hasn’t changed since mentioned several builds ago, I’m mostly convinced it’s not a bug and Bornakk just forgot.

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That’s a learn to play issue then, because I can easily kill druids on my rogue… the amount of stuns a rogue has, and slows alone makes them hard to get away from.

Also… you have vanish?! Lol… you can get away as well. It’s bull crap watching a rogue use cloak of shadows and vanish at 15% and get away… but it’s also apart of their class :man_shrugging:t3:

in fact rogues are one of the most powerful classes in PvP and PvE due to their toolkit… (Look at MDI and PvP tournament for proof)

No, it’s not cherrypicking, and it is on topic. I’m pointing out why that kind of argument is not a good argument. Travel form is a class move just like vanish is to a rogue. Travel form serves its purpose in certain content, just like vanish does to a rogue. Blizzard designed druid travel form to act like a mount outside of combat, and work at 60% in combat.

And yes, I said troll druid because I DO have a troll druid. Shadowmeld is a weak version of vanish, but still OP. Racials are only Overpowered to certain situations though.

How is running on water until damaged, slow falling, or no daze making it Overpowered when all of that can already be done via professions for normal mounts? Lol…

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I agree…

:+1:

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Not to bring up an old point again, but its a point worth making.

Blizzard seems to think that forms are mounts, see the druid class ‘mount’ which druids haven’t been able to use at all in current content, whereas every other class can happily mount their class mount after unlocking it.

If regular travel form etc isn’t going to benefit from mount equipment, then the druid class ‘mount’ needs to be moved to the mount tab to benefit. Add a f*cking channel if that’s what will appease everyone here.

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This x100

I’m okay with a cast time, I just want to use these forms as my mount

I would like to actually use my big owl form as a ground mount as well :confused:

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The old saying goes "Cutting off the nose to spite the face " - Is mount equiptment so important that you’d toss out the perks of shapeshifting?

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Literally called it.

You’re playing crappy druids.

Unsurprisingly, Lightfang isn’t thinking things through. They’d say that and when Blizzard changed it they’d be the first begging Blizzard to undo it.

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In addition to being instant cast, Travel form also has the same ability as the Sky Golem where you can gather herbs while “mounted”. Sky Golem also won’t be affected by mount equipment because it can do that. Travel form has the same ability and more so it makes sense that equipment won’t apply to it either.

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How is it not a valid argument? They are both class abilities. You can say X ability is overpowered because they always run away”, but until there is data to show it, it’s really just an opinion.

Strange, I didn’t realize you were watching me PvP.

Again, your opinion… lol

But hey, there isn’t a flood of rogues in the MDI, and pvp tournament for a particular reason or anything… :man_shrugging:t3:

I mean, I’ve never invited a druid for travel form in PvP or M+ :rofl:

Unsurprisingly, it is you making yet another opinion.

You do not speak for me. If I say I’m okay with it, then I’m okay with it :roll_eyes:

I would be perfectly fine with a cast time in PvE while in combat.

As for PvP, it would destabilize class balance.

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Did you read my post I made? It’s a perfectly valid argument if we’re talking about class balancing (that I already made for you). Problem is we’re talking about mount equipment.

You can cut the hypocrisy with a knife.

Of course it is. I based it entirely on my experience. You asked

And I said it did. It should’ve ended there, but you tried to make it out like it was my fault when you have no idea how I play so I turned your own argument against itself, by doing the same to you. (Poetic, don’t you think?)

Shroud is the main reason. It’s not like our dps is top tier (it’s not bad either) but what’s faster? Fighting a mob or skipping it?

I agree 100% it has no place in MDI or M+, but you keep getting away from the argument because your only move is to deflect and try to veer the argument in your favor. I’m just not letting you and forcing you to stay on track. The topic again, is your class getting mount equipment. Not dps, abilities, etc vs other classes. It’s whether you deserve mount equipment on your druid. The answer is “NO!”.

You do the same. Literally read your past posts.

Fine, I can’t speak for you. I’ll give you that. I’m just VERYYYYYYYYYYY sure you’d regret that decision.

Guess we’ll just see. I feel we’re not going to go any further so I’m ending my participation here. Feel free to have the last word. I’m done reading and replying.

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Seems fine to me. It’s mount equipment…

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:thinking: okay… lol :joy:

Because shadowmeld flightform has anything to do with mount equipment… but you say stuff like

Which to that I need to say…

It is indeed on topic. Never once was it stated that this is just about druids getting mount equipment. I simply asked for everyone else’s thoughts on the matter, and all people are saying is “it’s OP”.

That is not a very good reason to not allow it, especially considering I have yet to see one advantage this would give druids over other classes in terms of profession.

It is simply a QoL change. That is all this is.

But…

If that’s the case, Blood DK’s shouldn’t get mount equipment either…

They will have

1.) No daze while mounted (Spec)
2.) Water Walking (Class)
3.) Increased mount speed (Class)
4.) slow fall when dismounted in air (Mount Equipment)
5.) able to interact with items while mounted (Professions)

I still think they should be able to keep all of this

why?! you might ask,

It’s simple… it does not effect me in any particular way, and is not OP…

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Eh, what about Leather Barding, Stirrups, Gliders, and Water Walking Potions?

I’m pretty all of my characters make use of these fairly regularly (at the same time).

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Travel forms like Ghost Wolf and and Druid forms are not mounts so they should not benefit from equipment.

However, Running Wild has always been treated like a mount, and I believe it has a cast time equal to mount summoning, so in fairness it should benefit from equipment.

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It would be awesome to be running on water in travel or cat or bear form but probably won’t happen. You have to figure some there are limits even in a fantasy mmo. But like many others here have said, it feels like worgens are getting the short shrift.

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As a Worgen Druid who doesn’t use mounts other than running wild, what a slap in the face. Every time we get a class mount (form) it’s either broken or left out of every future update.

This is unacceptable and just sloppy work. Fix your game.

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absolutely disgusted as a druid to be forced out of my class fantasy and ride another creature. WHEN I AM A MOUNT but cant use mount equipment :pensive: