It may be as soon as it happens they make groups in group finder so unbalance the shard.
Be thankful we let you have THAT much.
honestly, i dont think there are very many alliance left on the game. they are mostly horde now.
Well, all the data disagrees with you. But believe what you like.
Nuh uh, oceanic shards almost never form raid groups, especially in Mechagon. It’s just a whole load of small groups / individuals doing their daily checklist of rares.
As soon as a horde raid rocks along, we just leave, not even bothering to fight or group up because we’re just doing our dailies.
If true, then the problem is even worse, because the Alliance’s massive population is happening even without clumping them on the shard by forming raid groups.
it does? i admit i havent been keeping tabs on it since early bfa. are you saying there are more alliance now than then? cause alliance was hemorraging entire guilds, who were going horde, at that point.
Because if you’re raiding on oceanic, frostmourne alliance is the super hub. Many horde guilds on oceanic have transferred over the course of BFA to our realm with the shrinking raiding population.
Sounds familiar?
Alliance is 46% right now, Horde 54%.
Horde had around 46% of the player base for over 10 years and nobody was crying about the impending demise of the Horde on the forums. 46% of the playerbase is fine.
This is happening on both ends too, I’ve been in lots of ones where Horde gets 0 points and Alliance gets 3000 (definitely doesn’t happen as often). I don’t think this is as much of a faction imbalance issue as it is Blizzards horrible shard balancing.
Hypothetically even if there were 10:1 Horde players they could only put a 10th of them into the battles to make it even but that’s not happening. Since these extremes happen on both sides it seems like this is a major issue on their shard grouping.
at this point, its blizzard not making changes to the way sharding works.
its not a favortism issue, its a blizzard sharding issue
I agree that sharding is stupidly broken and Blizzard naively designed an expansion around assuming it would work, when the truth is that it never worked.
However, I think giving rewards to the over-populated faction, just because they’re Alliance, is also stupid. Blizzard needs to fix sharding and STOP paying Alliance players time-and-a-half for doing the same (or even easier) amount of work.
I agree 100%. If blizzard would fix sharding to balance out the factions, there would be no reason for the extra rewards for a faction.
The extra rewards in general are just a very bad idea, and just a band-aid trying to cover a stab wound… xd
Warmode is probably the biggest fail I’ve seen in the game so far.
some portion of those are horde alts. and vice-a-versa. some horde are alliance alts. like i have about 10 horde and the rest are alliance. it could be even worse than it appears, since a horde on an alliance alt just getting achieves and not participating in alliance faction events like wpvp, is not going to bolster alliance wpvp numbers, yet they’ll still be counted as alliance population
Most likely, the Horde on your shard made LFG groups inviting Horde into the shard when the battle started. Thus, creating a severe imbalance.
What needs to happen is they need to make it so if someone creates an LFG group when a Battle for Nazjatar starts, that person is phased OUT of the shard when someone joins the group, rather than phasing those people into the shard.
One of the major problems I see with the quest… you go into Nazjatar while in PvE mode, you pick up the quest, dang I have to go back to Stormwind/Orgrimmar to turn on Warmode. So you hop the portals all the way back to Stormwind/Orgrimmar, turn on Warmode, then come back to Nazjatar. Unfortuntely because you were going from zone to zone and have switched Warmode On. The zone you return to most likely will not be the same one you were in previously when you first picked up the quest.
some portion of those are horde alts. and vice-a-versa. some horde are alliance alts. like i have about 10 horde and the rest are alliance. it could be even worse than it appears, since a horde on an alliance alt just getting achieves and not participating in alliance faction events like wpvp, is not going to bolster alliance wpvp numbers, yet they’ll still be counted as alliance population
The numbers have held steady since the start of the expansion, when people only had 1 character. And both factions create alts, not just 1 or the other.
And both factions create alts, not just 1 or the other.
i said that. thats what vice-a-versa means. now i want you to think about that. theres probably quite a few alliance alts from the horde and horde alts from the alliance. if horde players have alliance alts, why aren’t they engaging in wpvp on the alliance side? think for a second. dont stop at - cause alliance aren’t turning on warmode, because when a horde player is on their alliance alt, they are alliance at that point.
if horde players have alliance alts, why aren’t they engaging in wpvp on the alliance side?
Because you don’t want to PvP on multiple characters, you only want to do it on your best-geared and best-performing characters. Even Horde players with 20 Horde alts don’t PvP on most of them. If any.