Blizzard on Battle for Nazjatar: "It won't start until factions are balanced"

Lightfang-elune · July 4, 2019, 6:29pm

We’ve heard your feedback (and experienced it ourselves) – there can be lopsided faction representation during the “Battle for Nazjatar” event. We’ve seen cases where only one faction is represented.

To address this, we’ve now changed it via hotfix so the “Battle for Nazjatar” will only become active when Nazjatar has a good mix of both Horde and Alliance players in War Mode. When that is not the case, an alternative event will become active called “Azshara’s Elite Commanders.” This is also available to players who are not in War Mode, and it also awards Nazjatar Battle Commendations for slaying Elite commanders during the event.

We’re continuing to monitor and investigate reports of server lag during the event, and we’re acting on feedback about significantly imbalanced areas. We’ll let you know as we make further changes.

Thank you for your patience and continued feedback!

This was not the case the last few days from what i’ve seen… Horde almost instantly won due to the large numbers in War Mode. The alliance got a total of 165 points out of 3000. We were vastly outnumbered on every front we went to.

Can you please actually HOTFIX that into the game is it ACTUALLY happens? I’d like a fair battle at least…

in fact, they even camped the main quest hub with the 40+ players they had and had over 4-5 bounties

Hagustus-emerald-dream · July 4, 2019, 6:32pm

Another alliance complaining at blizz that the alliance won’t turn on warmode

What do you want? For a blizzard employee to come into your house and turn it on??

This is a purely alliance player base issue

Shocking that the lfr, pro flying, wants the game mindlessly easy faction doesn’t want to fight

Dremin-sargeras · July 4, 2019, 6:32pm

Going on 15 years without being able to balance any single aspect of this game.

Don’t hold your breath, OP. Blizzard is by far one of the worst companies when it comes to balance.

Lightfang-elune · July 4, 2019, 6:47pm

Did you not read the blue post at all, or check your statements and back them up? LOL

1.) They flat out admit that there was an enormous faction imbalance in Nazjatar.

2.) I’m definitely better than the average “LFR casual player”, and stereotyping a faction itself is pathetic. Either way though, those are off topic, so please don’t derail the thread.

3.) Quit hiding on an alt, you know we can see who your main is, right?

Ladroesh-alterac-mountains · July 4, 2019, 6:48pm

Yeah, my expeirence today too. Horde won in 10 minutes and it started with the sides completely lopsided.

Gulkas-barthilas · July 4, 2019, 6:50pm

I play Oceanic Horde, so I have the same experience as you Alliance lads but I don’t even get the +25%.

Lightfang-elune · July 4, 2019, 6:50pm

Yea, it’s just not fun when one faction gets overwhelmed…

This is not to you Ladroesh, but I feel like I need to say this.

To clarify, I don’t care if horde wins, I just want a fair battle so I can have fun in it at least.

This post is not about the past, this is about fixing a new system in the game now.

I’d rather have factions balanced, and that helps both factions. So let’s not derail the thread talking about past faction imbalances.

Battywash-area-52 · July 4, 2019, 6:52pm

you guys should have been around when 2/3 of the player base wanted to play the “pretty” characters…it was almost 100% required on some servers to be a rogue if you were going out solo into the world as a horde character

Lightfang-elune · July 4, 2019, 6:52pm

That sucks hopefully blizzard will make the changes on Oceanic as well to help balance the factions over there!

Kelisaria-kiljaeden · July 4, 2019, 7:14pm

This. It isn’t a Blizzard issue if Alliance players don’t want to turn it on. If burning down Teldrassil didn’t make you Allies turn it on for bloodlusted vengeance based on tribalism, then nothing will. You also get vast amounts more rewards from participating, so you won’t even do it for that, yet you guys whine about how “it’s too Horde dominated!”, well, maybe if all of you turned it on and fought back, this wouldn’t be an issue.

anon47930943 · July 4, 2019, 7:18pm

While sharding is still a thing or at least for as long as Blizz refuses to fix it, starting when numbers are balanced will never work. Ever.

Turnberry-illidan · July 4, 2019, 7:20pm

This is a true Horde right here.

Lightfang-elune · July 4, 2019, 8:14pm

Balancing the game IS a blizzard issue. I have been in War Mode.

Oceanic realms are alliance dominated for the most part… it’s not fair for them to be overwhelmed and gimped of rewards for playing a certain faction, especially when they ARE participating in a mode.

There is ways to balance the factions, blizzard simply have not taken the right steps to ensure it is done correctly.

So all in all, quit blaming the factions and detailing it to a “Well u should turn on war mode” type of deal… if that was going to be the case, blizzard would have said that already rather than trying to make fixes.

Kelisaria-kiljaeden · July 4, 2019, 8:17pm

Player populations have nothing to do with “balance”. Abilities and classes, maybe, but not player populations, unless you are going to force race changes and population caps on factions.

Player population has to do with personal choice. That’s the only real deciding factor.

Aeroaxx-stormreaver · July 4, 2019, 8:21pm

I dunno, I like smashing alliance players who always whine when they are the ones who hate warmode unless bribed.

It’s kind of like a “Where’s Waldo?” event whenever this bg procced. Scanning the entire map for one Ally for that kill.

Meh, we always subjugate and push these whiners to their base if they start anything in any shard and then some.

Lightfang-elune · July 4, 2019, 8:23pm

You do realize you get rewards for war mode participation… right?

And you do realize I can’t make the choice to be outnumbered, right? Lol

It is a balancing issue, which again (and I’ll highlight it for you since you obviously seem to not be reading it) BLIZZARD IS TRYING TO BALANCE IT ALREADY

Kelisaria-kiljaeden · July 4, 2019, 8:28pm

We get far less rewards then you do, yet more Horde participate. Cry me a river.

And that’s not Blizzard’s fault. They didn’t put a gun to the heads of every Horde player, and force them to roll Horde, anymore then the great Alliance flood of Warlords. There is no magical conspiracy against poor little you.

Nothing you’ve mentioned has anything to do with “balance”, nor will it ever result in “balance”. You can’t force people to roll Alliance and turn Warmode on.

Lockedheart-anvilmar · July 4, 2019, 8:28pm

fun fact: in past horde had better PvP.
This made serious raiders/PvP players faction change (as they wanetd higher chance to win/be one of first to clear). Racials were part of issue (not really issue anymore overall…but no reason to go back to allaince as u gain nothing from it either)

The current issue is ofc player issue; however the past reason was game balance issue which casued current issue.

lol this is where i now ignroe your posts.
Factions dont have any difference on if ur pro lfr/flying or not. That is individual based.

Proof?
I am alliance main and I was not pro flying

Chihao-frostmourne · July 4, 2019, 8:31pm

It’s all cool until some oceanic horde phases 2x40man raids into our shards

Then we turn war mode off / call it a day / swap zones, because getting into a raid group to fight them is pointless and unrewarding.

Tewa-hyjal · July 4, 2019, 8:32pm

Late last night (so during Oceanic prime time) I went to check out the new War Mode quest on Mechagon.

MULTIPLE 40-man Alliance gank squads at every single rare spawn.

It’s not that there aren’t enough Alliance, it’s just that Alliance have played the victim for so long that they’ve gotten Blizzard to always pay them time-and-a-half.

(Horde get 250 spare parts for doing the quest. Alliance get 400 spare parts for doing the same quest, even though they outnumber Horde 20-to-1.)