Still need Gilded though, so I guess 8s but at that point why not go all the way and stick to 10s?
Because you don’t enjoy 10’s.
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Was the game worse when it was easier? I enjoyed legion and bfa raids and m+ a whole lot more and it was way easier than it is now. Playing with friends then wasn’t a big deal for the weekly key. Nowadays I have to deal with guild drama and telling people to get good, so people want to invite them into keys. I already am sanguine with the fact I could be doing more difficult content, but I prioritize my social group above that, however the level needed to do top weekly keys has made the game unfun because of that choice.
My favorite seasons were not difficult ones, end of bfa and end of shadowlands were peak m+ for me, and it wasn’t because of the difficulty.
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True,
but I think we’re still dancing around the main problem of, the game isn’t where Blizzard or the players want it to be outside of Plunderstorm and Classic. And this is just my view of why its the case
The people that were complaining about the game being too easy are still complaining about the game being too easy. At some point blizzard needs to ignore those people.
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Not only was it worse, but it’s created the unwarranted angst that’s floating around, now. This is why Monty Haul RPG’s must be avoided; we’ve known this since the 1970’s. It’s a beast that cannot be kept fed.
In any case, the game can be as easy as you want it to be, right now. You just won’t be getting the same gear as the people who are doing challenging content. That’s okay. I’m playing Darkest Dungeon right now and I play on Radiant because I DON’T ENJOY PLAYING ON STYGIAN DIFFICULTY. Nor am I asking for Stygian to be nerfed.
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Im looking up whatever these words mean. You have my curiosity xD
Oh and actually something i forgot to mention for all this.
Half the reason im pushing high keys now is because of the more crests up to a 12. More bang for my buck time wise will grab anyone’s attention.
Oh Darkest Dungeon’s a hoot.
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Oh nice! I still gotta get through grim dawn lol. I’ll add it to my ever growing wish list
LOL just found this on youtube.
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This is almost exactly how it works in Guild Wars 2. There is gear progression when you are brand new to the game but once you hit level 80 and have full ascended the gear progression ends in terms of player power and you just customize your gear with stat combo’s or reset them if new stat combos come out later.
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Good news, it is. And it is also easier and requires less commitment and organisation than raiding. It also rewards failure with mythic raid loot - you don’t even have to time the run to be awarded boosted ilvl loot from the GV. In raiding, nothing you do can give you boosted ilvl loot from the vault.
M+ is also infinitely spammable with no lockout, unlike raiding. It rewards proportionately more loot per person due to this.
So yes, M+ does need to be revamped, starting with a weekly loot lockout before they even consider making it easier than it is.
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Ive yet to see a raider io with more than 3 Mythic raid bosses done. But thats a whole other topic for another day lol.
Im fine with Mythic raiding being the be all end all of content tho.
It was also a more popular time to do m+ and raid. But your right to an opinion is sacred. I just want to do upper high end level content with my friends. I’d like to do mythic, but the 20 man thing really does not jive with a social guild which is annoying because half of mythic is just heroic+. I might try for the 2850 mount this season because I probably can, but I am getting sick of social drama because people who used to be able to clear the weekly key cap are not getting into keys because the level is inexplicably being raised for no reason. I can use the same argument just do higher keys for the same reward; the raising of the floor is annoying in that it breaks the social cohesion of long-standing groups.
Also, wow is a skinner box rpg, to say that the ship has sailed on it being a monty haul rpg sailed so far in the past most fictional time machines aren’t going to reach it. I also don’t think its Monty Haul to expect to be able to get bis or near bis over 3 months of doing highish end content which is my personal desire for the game. And darkest dungeon is single player and stygian doesn’t affect gear which makes it a very weird comparison. I actually agree though I don’t play stygian because I view it as “bad difficulty” where difficulty is in loss of quality of life and worse rng. I just view alot of wow’s difficulty nowadays as “bad difficulty” as well where the difficulty hits hard in forms of group comp requirement, various utility requirements, and fast group wide pass/fail mechanics.
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My suggestion would be to look at what activities you enjoy and look for a goal you can accomplish doing that activity. The reverse (picking a goal and forcing yourself to do the activity the goal requires) leads to madness.
I was able to unlock the mythic transmog on 9 characters this season just with delves and raid pugs. Next season I’ll be able to accomplish the same just with delves so I can only raid on my favorites. It may have been a little slower but when you aren’t competing with anyone for the right to play, slow isn’t bad.
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Hi.
+8 or +10 keys aren’t highish end content, though. M+ is trivially easy.
If i’m screening the never gonna get gud players out of content, I don’t view it as trivially easy. It’s not too bad in a solid group, and it’s obviously not a big deal compared to the highest end, but if we go that road should we just add an extra tier of loot above mythic raid for the very small percentage of people who are doing 19s and 20s then?
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Which is another problem entirely.
They can get good. Anyone can. I have faith in people, I KNOW that people who don’t think they can do harder content… can.
It’s just that Blizzard has made everything such a cakewalk buffet that many players have gotten out of the habit of even trying.
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“The game is too easy for my 4 friends and I who have been going tournament mode in M+ for 8 years straight”
“I’m a pro chess player and chess is too easy for me, we should make the pawn only be able to move half of the square on the board”
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I don’t give up on them, but they will play how they play. The skill floor has long since moved above some of these players who I’ve watched play for the better part of a decade. By cakewalk buffet are you talking about vanilla, bc, or just the previous expansion? Being able to do relevant content with all kinds of players is one of the best things about this game, mythic being challenging is fine, but heroic fails as an endgame content mode, so m+ is where players in my situation end up in. And from my perspective for my goals and intensions m+ has had better days.
Ironically I’ve historically 18 manned early mythic bosses with some of these never gonna get good types too, which is another fun part of this games difficulty.
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