I’m personally a fan of gear progression in mmorpgs
But you’re wrong.
Pvpers will pvp simply to pvp.
People who don’t get the mount still q up and play for fun/because they’re working to being able to get the mount
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Bad take, OP
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You do get rewarded. It’s just not rewards that you’re interested in. For me, the reward is overcoming obstacles and making a class that is widely considered weak in 2v2 work. I like to see if I can achieve the rating goals that I set for myself every season. I don’t need or want an arbitrary gear advantage or disadvantage contributing to my successes or failures.
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I would take it a step further and have all the gear on the honor quartermaster cost 0 honor
also, there are still rewards for doing unrated PVP too. you get boxes from winning that can contain recipes and we still marks of honor which can be turned in for older transmog sets. you can continue to increase your honor level and honorable kills too
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Just wait few months , the people that is now happy for * equal gear for everyone * will get tired of doing pvp due lack of progression system .
A lot of people have talked about equality , games that implemented this kind of systems usually fall or become games for casuals , even in real life systems that work this way tend to fall because none like to do efforts without any kind of reward .
Some say the reward is the transmog , the mounts , when most players won’t get this , then what’s the actual reward for the majority , the answer is none just the experience , experience that will become repetitive .
People get influenced too much from streamers and they keep repeating things they say in their videos , they repeat biased opinions , of how is good because is easy , is good for them because they make easy money they sell content and done , are few the streamers that play for fun .
Time will give me the reason .
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Like amatox I find gearing fun theory crafting bis stats and items but if people hated it I’m totally fine for them to make it painless for the community.
That being said the rating and drive to be at the top is the main reason I enjoy playing.
Without the drive to be good or improve I doubt the casuals will play rated for long.
There still is a progression system, it just doesn’t affect your item level in PVP combat.
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People like you had the mindset that killed shadowlands. PVP aint for you, chief.
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OP should stick to raids and dungeons
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Think about this MOST PvP player hate Arena. They want nothing to do with a boring death match and want more focus on objective based PvP. If Arena was removed the majority of PvP players wouldn’t care. We much rather they focus on new PvP modes where we have 5v5 or 6v6 for competitive play and Esports.
Arena is a kinda dead, stale concept that never really took off. It peaked in Wrath and went downhill every expansion from there. It’s time to move on. No one watches the AWC because no one cares. These are just the cold facts.
Now that PvP players aren’t forced into Arena and can just PvP. The game will be better for everyone.
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And yet RBGs are the least popular competitive arena bracket in the game.
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They’re fun until some 1400 rogue with hero xp starts racially slur bombing the whole discord call
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If you neglect something for 10 years it isn’t going to be good. That is why Most PvP players don’t do RBGs or Rated PvP. However we would love for there to be great options for competitive PvP and for there to be design and balance around 6v6 and 10v10.
Objective based PvP should of always been the focus for Esports in an MMO. It would provide watchable games. It’s also infinitely more fun to do RBGs type game than Arena where you have strategies and resources to fight over.
Just let Arena die and stop balancing for it. Lets make PvP in this game great by moving away from Arena.
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This is true, I’ve never been in an rbg group above 2k mmr that didn’t have people shouting gamer words at each other.
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Cringe. Cringe. Cringe.
PVE is >>>
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this honestly reads like some dozer new age posting
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If you adjusted this to 2100 fury warriors sitting 1800 I’d feel offended.
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pretty much. so glad skill > gear in DF
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No dude, PvP for notoriety, for achievement, for fun… Never for a gear advantage, that’s for weak players that need crutches.
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Everyone with the same gear in pvp REALLY gonna see how Blizz can class tune. Day after blue post on a class getting buffed Bg’s are flooded with the same class/spec.
Ppl should have better gear to show for there hard working in pvp just as in pve. I wouldn’t want just a mog or a link. I want my power to scale with my skill. Some ppl need to realize they suck in pvp and move on