Blizzard is making a mistake with an easy solution

There’s no reason why MM hunters need to lose their pet.

Yes I know lone wolf is the way to go for optimal DPS, but the OPTION, I REPEAT, OPTION to have a customized pet companion has always been a part of the spec and should continue to do so.

A simple eagle companion that spawns on a handful of abilities ain’t gonna cut it for players who want a pet.

BM is getting the ability you have one or two pets. Obviously one option will parse better but th option remains.

I don’t see why MM can be the same…

As for utility and how to balance lone wolf and a pet as best as possible, here’s what Blizzard csn simply do.

Grant blood lust to all hunte s outside of their pet…

Aspect of the Lion: Roar with pride, granting you and your party 30% haste.

Fero pets get a new ut spell.

Make lone wolf a choice talent at the top of the tree with “hunting party”

Lone wolf increases the dmg of your auto shots and steady shot by x%.

Lone wolf grants the following abilities.

Pathfinding, fort of the bear, and healing reduc on aim shot.

If using lone wolf, spells like intimidate, sav and freedom can use the eagle animation.

Hunting party would basically allow you to use a pet

And that’s it…

Simple, there really is no reason to remove pets from mm with an easy fix like that.

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Removing pets from MM is “fantasy forward”. They explained as much.

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Players who want a pet play BM or SV

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As mm…

Like how they can right now.

It’s fantasy reduction…

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Ignore me. You nailed it Arcturax.

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Nah, MM players use Lone Wolf, that’s why they’re making this change

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That’s what everyone who doesn’t understand how the spec is played says.

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Na man, because of the utility issue.

Lone wolf just needs a passive, an active, and grev wounds. With a small buff to your single target.

Then it can compete with a pet

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An archer focused spec without a pet is a cool idea. Idk why everyone is freaking out about it.

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I spoke out of turn without reading clearly enough. You got this brother.

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That’s fine…

That’s why you get an option.

Just like BM has option for one or two pets in 11.1

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MM hunters have made the active choice to play without a pet for the past decade. Furthermore, people on the PTR who are now testing it out are saying that the changes feel good to play with… and there was a guy who tested the BM changes that makes it so you only have one pet and they purposefully picked the stuff that made them the most “shots”-based BM hunter as possible stating that it actually played relatively fine.


Yes, this change is happening for a good reason namely that MM hunters haven’t been using pets as part of their identity for longer than specializations (and thus Marksmanship hunters specifically) have existed in the game.

This is an improvement for MM in every possible way, and making changes to appease people who want to play BM but as MM isn’t the way you go about making changes that people (judging by their play pattern) actually want. All of this has been explained over and over again, no matter however much you want to pretend that this isn’t the actual truth of the matter.

It isn’t reducing anything, it is adding something that’s relevant and removing something which has been irrelevant for at least the past decade if not longer.

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It’s replacing a pet under your control with a random proc pet. We should not try to make this more than it is.

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Not all mm players chose lone wolf…

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Yeah we know, the 7 MM Hunters that don’t use it are getting super vocal on the forums

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My fantasy is that Hunters get deleted.

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I’m all for options but nah, like others have said, the overwhelming majority of people who play and love marksmanship hunter enjoy it without a pet.

Like, if Blizzard could somehow poll every marksmanship hunter on this, the overwhelming majority would vote for not using a pet and it wouldn’t even be close.

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I just read another thread where somebody tried it out on the PTR and it seems to actually feel a whole lot better and be putting damage out in a completely different way making it feel stronger. I can’t wait to try it in 11.1 and see for myself.

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Hyperbole isn’t gonna make your option more valid…

Again, there are mm players that enjoy a pet, so why not give them an option to do so same as BM has an option to have one or two pets…

Like the logic stands…

That’s cool, that’s the beauty of choice talents…

Which is my entire point. There’s no good reason against it.

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Players who want a pet play hunter.

It’s been this way for 20 years and doesn’t need to change.

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