If it were ok and intended for 30-40 players in a group/in discord – to be in the same battleground they would make that feature available. But it’s not intended, Blizzard doesn’t want it. (whatever the reason they don’t want it is open to debate and not part of this point I’m making).
Logically, if they omit making it available where it is available elsewhere, then it must be concluded that it is not supposed to happen.
yet Alliance made it happen.
This is dishonorable and against the spirit of the battleground and competition at least, at worst – it is cheating.
Don’t act like you don’t know why people are critical of those premades your faction was doing.
My biggest problem was actually the ‘paladin pull’ issue. I found it ludicrous that the warmasters would leash that long allowing for the solo DREK kill.
My sense of justice and fair play was violated by that type of pull and also the premades.
It’s funny how perspective changes opinion. I’ll grant that. But if you are in fact right, Blizzard would not have made changes to discourage your factions behaviour.
One that im such a morally bankrupt person that i dont care if someone on my team cheats. Incorrect, I do.
Two, that i was losing. My win rate even against Ally premades was near 50%. It really just depended on wether I and the other non-quitters could get the PuGs to organize a turtle.
Three, that i ever used Discord. I barely do even when im gaming with friends.
All BGs draw from all the servers, so the “low population on PvP servers” is utterly irrelevant. Ally are (very slightly) the larger faction. Close enough that im willing to call it even given the margin of error.
Because Blzzard has never said its cheating. Having more people is not cheating.
Here’s what is cheating:
Blizzard does not want AV done with premades.
They take (active) steps to prevent that, putting systems in place.
Players (and some Horde were doing it to, just not many) - mostly Alliance - take actions to circumvent and exploit the game systems to join as a group anyway.
This is a direct violation of the ToS. I.E. … cheating.
It was cheating, period.
Potentially, queue-dodging (which is also shady AF) is also against ToS and cheating.
That there is no way they can fix. YOu cant tell people they have to play one faction or the other. Theyll just quit. Dont want to get camped? Roll on a PvE server. You can still do all the BGs just the same.
Im sure they give Fs. But they literally cant do anything about it. And you knew coming into this 15 year old game the repercussions of rolling on a PvP server.
Which has nothing to do with wether or not it is cheating. Here, ill re-type it just for you:
Blizzard does not want AV done with premades.
They take (active) steps to prevent that, putting systems in place.
Players (and some Horde were doing it to, just not many) - mostly Alliance - take actions to circumvent and exploit the game systems to join as a group anyway.
This is a direct violation of the ToS. I.E. … cheating.
You realize the pvp population is the only one that matters or is relevant right? And it’s directly reflected in the q times.
Save me the BS about correlation and causation unless you have something to actually assosiate the q times with. It’s wildly obvious there are much more horde pvpers. Bringing up overall population is an idiotic argument.
you wernt whining when the alliance was winning av in 7m and now your are losing because you arnt ridding the coat tails of premades anymore and losing alot.
and the alliance premade wsg more so is its worse for horde.
It’s honestly not “premade a are gone” that really ruins the experience.
75% of the alliance queueing BGs confuse BG queue with retail LFR queue. They expect little resistance and free gear.
They die once, they don’t have a super easy win, they decide to afk or stay a ghost.
Premade allowed people to come together to get rid of these people.
Honestly I think the best cure is just going to be time. More people will leave, unfortunately for the horde it’s gonna mean longer queues if I were to guess
