Blizzard doesn't know if LFR is a difficulty or not

[Baator-quelthalas]

i do not know, i quit in 9.1

but years ago they say the canon is in mythic, the scenes/cinematics and unique faces of mithyc are the canonical ends.

[Cyous-area-52]

So… what’s the difference between the story in LFR and Mythic in SOD, or in CN?

LFR lets you see the same exact story that’s told in Mythic.

[Baator-quelthalas]

If you don’t have the same scenes/cinematics and faces, you don’t have de same story

Any of those things can change the context of the story.

WoW don’t have a story mode.

[Aelora-wyrmrest-accord (Aelora)]

@Dartakan-ragnaros

You are missing the biggest problem that LFR caused, the decline and death of small and casual guilds.

Back in Cata there was nothing for them to do, normal was tuned too hard for most of them and heroic dungeons was the only thing to do as a group.

Had they introduced flex in dragon soul, people wouldn’t have gotten used to rely on LFR and instead would be more willing to pug or raid in casual guilds.

So much this. Friends and family PuG raiding essentially DIED after Wrath when Cata launched and GC was all about “Git gud!” while they bled subscribers. People also ignore that things like Personal Loot was introduced post LFR/Cata due to raiders being massive jerks who would go into LFR and troll casuals by rolling Need on items just to ensure players didn’t get them.

Raiders brought all of this mess on themselves along with Blizzard for listening to them.

[Cyous-area-52]

@Baator-quelthalas

If you don’t have the same scenes/cinematics and faces, you don’t have de same story

Any of those things can change the context of the story.

WoW don’t have a story mode.

This is disingenuous. Player characters are part of the scene as stand-ins. The same story is told regardless of which players are involved.

LFR exists so players can experience the story. That’s fine and no one really dislikes LFR for allowing players to see the story that took place in the world zones.

You wouldn’t claim the Warcraft RTS campaigns aren’t a “story mode” because you annihilated a mission with all units alive, or barely got by before the timer ended. It’s not different in WoW. It’s a game, not a book.

[Sumboy-arugal]

Or you know different people

[Marla-westfall]

you expect consistency? I hope you gave that customer service person poor marks on knowledge on the survey

[Laeuko-draenor]

@Dartakan-ragnaros

Ion said in an interview that in insight LFR was a mistake. Why are people surprised about them pushing people into normal?

Most likely a sign LFR being removed in the future.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

They claim EU, but have been caught lying multiple times before.

[Claptimus-bonechewer]

Its not

it was a way to see the story for people who aren’t bothered to actually get a grp and raid

A story mode per se

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

Just look at their history.

They think themselves titans of the industry who can do no wrong.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

@Murdercarpet-zuljin

LFR player position: “I do LFR. It gives me something to do.”
Elitist position: “LFR isn’t content. If we remove it, all those casuals will be forced to join nonexistent raiding guilds who want them, change their jobs, abandon their family responsibilities, and play hardcore fulltime like wow players are supposed to.”

Really makes you question what kind of reality where these devs have to live to accept this.

Or if its just do it our way or get the boot. I could believe that most working at Blizzard do so since they have no other choice.

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

It is probably because you can’t actually set a raid to LFR. In a way they are correct that it is a completely different thing but in the end, it is called “looking for raid”…

[Debbyfrowner-thrall]

@Eternosus-galakrond

It’s entirely possible that the same spectrum of arguments and opinions we see on the forums are also happening within the dev team itself.

100%. I imagine so. They have been very stubborn about changes so I’d imagine there’s a lot of people who don’t like change