So you tell us in interviews quests will unlock other classes items and now all of a sudden it was a bug? Who is wrong? This needs to be addressed. Why radio silence on the american forums???
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You probably shouldnât believe that datamining and beta behavior is set in stone.
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Yea? why are we getting the cold shoulder bliz? Whatâs so special about the EU or APJ(applejacks)?
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Do you think it would be different to the response on the EU forum?
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There is an interview with a developer, it is why they said the conversion to warbands would take so long, and it worked on beta.
I think that is AMPLE reason to believe it would work.
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Yeah but as wowhead themselves state, Morgan Dayâs response on the subject was ambiguous. Itâs easy to get from it that he missed what the interviewer was saying about the appearance unlocks. They were talking about all the appearances from a quest unlocking at once, but they never said âat onceâ.
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Doesnât sound ambiguous at all to me.
" quest will continue to grant the transmog and should be retroactive"
In response to the quesiton:
âWe noticed they were awarding all armor types will it be retroactiveâ
Quests will continue is acknowledging the armor type and should be retroactive is acknowledging the retro activeness.
Blizz is infact back tracking or the CS person in EU is misinformed.
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i find it cute you guys believed them.
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No, that wasnât the question. Youâre truncating it to make it sound like a simpler and more direct question than it was. The full question was:
âWe noticed in the testing, we would do quests and it would collect all the appearances for all the different armor types but one of the big questions that people are curious about is, is it retroactive to quests that weâve already done? Will we need to redo loremaster or is that going to be a massive spam of appearances when we log in?â
Day was answering it on the fly, not getting full exact details of what the interviewer wanted to know. But from the wording of the question the emphasis was seemingly about retroactively appearance unlocks. Not about clarifying whether a quest should be giving all armor type appearances at once. And that was how he answered. He focused on the retroactive thing.
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Itâs a dumb decision if true.
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You are over complicating it. lol he obviously answered the question with yes we will get them and yes they will be retroactive.
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Okay so thereâs a bit of misinformation going on here.
There was a post on the EU Customer Support forums, asking why when theyâre doing quests on alts, the appearances arenât unlocking as Morgan Day said they would. And the CM responding to the thread is saying that itâs a bug.
CMs do NOT have 1 to 1 communication with the developers. So the CM is probably operating off of inaccurate information.
What we know is the following:
- Morgan Day said that in the War Within, when you do quests, all appearances will be unlocked regardless of your class and what armor type they use.
- On the Beta when people complete quests in War Within zones, all the appearances are being unlocked regardless of what armor type the character is using.
- When you collect any item that isnât class-specific in game, that item now has its appearance unlock, even if you canât use it.
So with that information in mind, what I believe is happening is this. Yes, quests will unlock all appearances when completed, but this will only happen when doing War Within quests âfor nowâ. Much like how not all reputations are account-wide yet and theyâll be added into the new warband system over time, past expansion quests will also have that same functionality added over time.
Blizzard probably has to find a way to get over the massive hurdle which is unlocking appearances for all the quests our accounts have already done. Which is a large undertaking. Itâs a lot easier to flag quests we havenât done (such as War Within quests as the expansion isnât live yet) to do that, rather than go back and flag past quests, and then figure out how to get those appearances unlocked as well.
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âOmg I canât believe this company with a history of being liars would lie to meâ
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This is a dumb reply. An official wow dev said this.
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yeah theyâre supposedly based in the US yet they do this to us⌠does that mean i wonât unlock the other weapons I donât pick from quests?
The reason thereâs no official word on the US forums is probably because what the EU CM said isnât accurate.
CMs can send messages up the pipeline to the developers and if the developers respond they can relay information to us on the support forums (or the developers themselves can post) but as far as I can tell, they canât just poke their heads in to say, Morgan Dayâs office and ask him questions whenever they want. Especially since said CMs are in the EU (for the EU support forums), and not operating on US time.
The thing that gets me is that the âbugâ was up on beta for literally months, plenty of time for them to drop a line like âhey, this isnât going to be going liveâ, which they have done in the past when things go on beta unintentionally.
But I guess this is âintendedâ just like the broken shaman talents.
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Ahh cutting a loved feature that was hyped in beta is blizzardâs bread and butter⌠they love to do that stuff. Added bonus if it has been communicated badly as well.
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This is key. This behaviour, that Blizzard now says was a bug, confirmed what Blizzard said in interviews.
First, Blizzard carved out an exception for class-specific drops (eg from Nighthold, Hellfire Citadel, MC, BWL). Given that tokens are Warbound, I do not understand why this is the hill Blizzard wants to die on while mumbling something about âclass fantasyâ.
Until Blizzard walks this back weâll have constant questions from understandably confused players like âwhy canât I learn this tmog?â
Second, this change basically walks back the entire feature. Now they could just describe it as âyou can learn transmogs for some (but not all) of the previously soulbound items you lootâ.
How to turn a W into an L.
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I mean, again, and I really have to stress this.
CMs do not have 1 to 1 contact with the developers. Especially EU CMs who operate on EU time, not US time. This is especially true post-Microsoft purchase, because the in house CM teams were heavily gutted thanks to one last punch in the gut by Bobby Kotick so now the role of CM and support is heavily outsourced.
This is a CM talking to a player saying this is a âbugâ. This is incorrect. When you look at what is happening in the beta right now, itâs obvious this is intended, otherwise it would have been patched out by now (since the beta is a few builds ahead of what weâre currently playing). But it likely only applies to War Within quests, which we canât do at the moment because the expansion isnât live yet.