I am making lunch at the moment, then have to go shovel snow after that lol. I have some errands to run. Possibly later I can ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
How are you not able to compete? Must be super unlucky Iād say.
https://imgur.com/a/wkmacym all 12 of my games last night. One was a GY camp which actually had twinks on both sides, we were just the worse teamā¦ and ftr, I die a lot at max level too, I just play silly positioning 
Iāve shown you the screenshots as well as the killing blows. It should be self-evident. ![:man_shrugging:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/man_shrugging.png?v=6" ":man_shrugging:")
Like I said, if youāve had a different experience (somehow), youāre very fortunate. But Iāve shown plenty of proof of what Iām talking about.
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This one has twinks on both sides. Itās just one team plays worse than the other like I said. Happens max level too /shrug
You can see, image after image, the top players are twinks outkilling everyone lower than them by a very significant margin.
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The top dmg player, and a twink, is actually on your team.
But what does that have to do with anything? Twinks sway the balance of the game, thatās my entire point.
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And when twinks are on both sides yet one gets obliterated? Like the one GY match I had in AB, Alliance had 4 twinks, we had 3 and our team was still pushed back. Itās gonna happen regardless, when one team plays that bad.
And well played levelers will do the exact same thing.
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Except just about every screenshot Iāve provided seems to show otherwise. I provided every one that I could yesterday morning (when I remembered), even the ones where we won. I assure you, my druid couldnāt do a thing against the twinks. It was avoid or die. And Iāve shown above the damage they do. Itās not solely on the class they are, as seems to be the most directed thing to blame, though the twinks obviously typically choose those classes.
I actually singled out and attacked a hunter of the enemy faction in one BG and held my own just fine against them. They did damage, sure! But I still won in the end, even if just barely. Compare that with the twink that Aimed Shot-Arcane Shot in one action and took me from 100% to 0%.
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Itās like arguing with a wall. They just ignore any proof.
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I just linked 12 BGsā¦ and you all ignore it as well. Iām not denying twinks are out there and lopsided games can happen but a good group of levelers arenāt going to get GY camped every match. Oh but Iām talking to the poster who discredits SSās.
Iāve not ignored it at all, I just fail to see what theyāre trying to show. I see that you had one thatās a victory with twinks on the other side ā great job! However, even in those screenshots, you can look up the top performers of most (havenāt gone through every single pic, but every one Iāve checked thus far) and see that theyāre twinks.
Again, no one is saying itās impossible to win with twinks on the opposing team, but you can count on your team losing if theirs has more than yours, and if said twinks are focusing the objectives.
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Oh there is lots, you are leveling in these same battlegrounds right?
Ever watch players move around by using the keyboard while hamstringed?
Then only to watch them complain about PVP issues.
User results may vary, accordingly
Your screenshots prove that sometimes 'good" teams" can prevail. His screenshots prove that twinks are op in randoms. Your point is moot. His is on topic. Random players quing up solo usually are not in groups. They are in que for dungeons, questing, and in que for battlegrounds. There is no organized team in randoms for the most part.
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What is your point?
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That team in the AB was focusing objectives like a boss, we just did better. They were also a 3 man premade
In other words, āhis SSās back up my claim, yours proves it wrongā Gotcha
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By sometimes being able to overcome twinks and premades does not mean there is not a problem. There is a problem and you guys are ignoring it. You admit sometimes you que up with a twink. You also que up with others. I do not. I que up solo while in que for dungeons and questing.
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If that is adding up to your losses, it is a good time to find a small group.
Community and random invites are easily solved.
Other players are doing the same, start building that synergy.
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I didnāt all the way to 61ā¦ last night someone quick joined and Kang joined for one BG out of the 12. Plus, if thatās all it takes then we know this is a player issue, not twink.