Having the same number of tokens drop in a 25-man as a 10-man is pretty dumb. One token per week means 6 months to get an entire raid 1 token… And since the raid schedule for classic has generally been about 5 months, that means even if a guild begins full clearing from the first day, there won’t be enough time to get everyone a full tier set(assuming you even get the right tokens).
I’m not sure what exactly limiting it to one token is supposed to accomplish. T4 isn’t even BiS for most classes, and the bottleneck for Gruul’s and Mags isn’t T4. It is trinkets, weapons, and the rings from mag’s head.
It was.
I’m far more sweaty now, than I was back then. The wonders of being older, with far more free time, and we’ll, Covid.
There is such a thing as making things accessible in the interest of QoL or helping casuals, and having negatively impact the game by introducing unhealthy patterns of play.
It’s a fine line, but wrath was full of these mistakes, and this is one of them.
How’s grinding badges negative? Also, what if you’re one of those unlucky folks who raided regularly and never got your drops? (That was me.) What if you reroll soec and need to gear up? (That was me, too.)
I can see a number of reasons to allow easier access to gear that’s not just appeasing to casuals.
Already crying about loot. Must be sad to have everything you play for being about obtaining loot. You dont look at it like i get to do SSC for 30 weeks. I get to do this fun raid over and over with my friends in guild. Nope. LOOT. lmao
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Because it’s not about the casuals, it’s about how the sweaty modern player base will (ab)use that feature.
I’m not worried about them.
Besides tier pieces are frequently not BiS for many classes. It’s mostly dorks like me who want to collect full sets.
It’s phase 1. You have a LOT of time to collect your tier set.
T4 bosses don’t start dropping 2 tokens until Sunwell. Deal with it.
White knight harder, your are not shilling hard enough to get daddy blizzards attention!
I can agree with this change. My guild has seen 1 yes thats right 1 walock/hunter/mage shoulder token and 0 chest. meanwhile the warrior ones has 1 more person that needs it until it is considered rot aka OS or wasted only. Either droprates need to be adjusted to favor the classes in actual raids (warlocks/hunters) or simply just drop 2 tokens.
I just want my 2 set bonus!
Does this mean you wanted 40m vanilla raids to drop x4 pieces of tier?
So this is a very, very, slight downside to stacking half your dps into 2 classes?
literally toxic in a 25 when its one of the few upgrades for a chest this phase.
At this point in the game, just about every class for every slot has 3-5 options. It isn’t toxic that you can’t get your BiS already.
SSC/TK only ever dropped 1 token. Unless this is a #somechanges move, you can expect they’ll drop 1
Maulgaur dropped 2 tokens originally and changed to 3 tokens in 2.4. I have no idea why it only drops 1 now. Well that’s a lie, I know exactly why only 1 token is dropping, it involves incompetence.
Except Blizzard now artificially extend how long the time-gate actually takes, tonnes of evidence of them doing it in retail. In Classic they try to get away with charging people as much as they can (they put out surveys with different prices LOL) and they put ridiculously long time-gates into the game and only remove it if enough people complain about it. In prepatch they nerfed Honor by a factor of 10. A lot of things in TBCC (like Tab Targeting) still don’t work properly either and they still want us to keep paying sub.
except hunters won’t be using tier tokens at all, Only locks(and only if they’re fire destro) and mages. Since you only have 1-2 mages and 3-4 locks per guild this skews your numbers down massively.
If we get 2 tokens awesome, If we don’t theres other ways to get 2/4 pieces and other shoulder drops on par if not better than tier.
I really don’t understand why people have such a huge attraction to tier with its mediocre to terrible set bonuses and frequently terrible/lack of gem slots.
False, 2 token drops were the norm when I entered SSC (BT patch IIRC).
Yeap well that’s the breaks. It’s why I didn’t roll my beloved hance shaman thanks to the severe lack of decent offhand weapons available.
Alright, but you have to factor in your entire guild’s timeline of receiving the tokens.
There is a strong chance half your guild wont have their 25 tokens before phase 2 (tier 5) comes out, and that makes no frickin sense. It was a mistake they fixed because no one thought having 1 token drop per boss in a 25 man made any sense.
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posts from a lvl 60 alt and spends his entire life on the forums