But each of those had a season where they were incredible.
Afflics “big suc” in 8.0.
Demo’s explosive potential in 8.1.
Destro’s chaos bolts since 8.2.
That’s not even close to the case. People who go “two-button rotation” are typically just looking for cheap internet points.
My rotation on Destro fills the whole bar and is very fun to play.
Dropping voidform early in any scenario hurt because that was where our damage was. Even more so when we had mass hysteria.
I don’t prioritize mythic + as much as other players. It isn’t my end game so that certainly colors my perspective but that doesn’t mean that I don’t think it has issues there.
Cause it does.
You guys just jump out of nowhere and assume too much. Why not just read what I write and then comment on what I have said and not some make believe narrative that I am not spinning?
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You literally don’t press anything other than incinerate and chaos bolt in raids, what are you talking about lol. arena is different obviously but yeah, even in arena destro is incredibly braindead to play. Compare MoP destro pvp gameplay to bfa.
Because he doesn’t play it currently? I also played shadow in 8.0 as my main for a while, but I’m not going to sit here and tell you the pros and cons of it because I have no idea because I no longer play it at any sort of high level
So they never push con flag or inferno? or dark soul? or immolation? hmm
I agree with this entirely.
If one were so compelled to look at my posting history in just the last week you could find comments that say exactly that.
Like this one:
There are more as well, but I don’t want to make people dig through that cause I post relatively frequently.
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I picked up Destro this patch. I’ve been running Normal and starting on Heroic with Ny’alotha.
Rotation’s pretty damn big.
Cataclysm (Immolate if on cooldown) -> Rain of Fire -> Channel Demonfire -> Conflagrate -> Chaos Bolt -> Reaping Flames (Azerite Power) -> Incinerate if things are on cooldown.
No clue if it’s optimal, really don’t care. Point is it isn’t two buttons - what you said was inaccurate, period.
I’m of the opinion that you don’t need to play at the highest levels of content to see a spec’s effectiveness. I don’t play at any sort of high level on Malk, but I’ve seen for myself how busted Havoc is - and I’m certain you’re not going to debate that one.
He = ilvl to being high end player or not. When in fact since Ilvl is so easy to get it doesn’t mean squat if a person actually know whats wrong with the class or what needs to be changed.
By his logic he doesn’t know much about rogue because he is only 461
No, that’s not optimal at all. Your rotation should be… Immolate, conflagrate, chaos bolt, incinerate… now do that seven thousand times and that’s warlock life.
I am of the opinion that the harder the content you do, the more your opinion is worth.
If I have 2 resto druids, one is Naeniaqt and the other is some random who runs around doing mythic +5s, I’m going to trust Naenias opinion more because he plays often and at a high level. He knows exactly how every part of rdru works. The other guy is likely to say druid tank healing sucks because the warrior he’s running with isn’t pressing shield block.
You also might think havoc is busted for different reasons than why it is actually a meta class. I would trust Fanamvps opinion more than yours in this case
You know that most classes have fundamentally the same amount of buttons they push for the rotation to be effective.
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Save for one important aspect… they generally have abilities that proc and interact with other abilities. Nothing like that exists for Destro. You do your rotation, and that’s all you do.
This is why people say it’s boring, because it’s boring.
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But how do we know that the high level person is doing everything right?
The under-geared one might be doing everything optimal for his ilvl and gear at the moment. He then might do even better when he has = gear.
Basically you can’t judge some one because of the ilvl they have.
I don’t get how every patch or expansion they say there isn’t enough time to overhaul spec design because covenants or legendaries or artifact whatever. Class design is THE most important thing in the game. I’ll play a fun class in any content, I won’t touch content on a broken class. Their attitude towards this recently is stupid.
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If they’d take the time they use making world quests, and invest that in class design… I’d be happy.
Sorry, I was a bit snarky, but it’s because the pro-Voidform crowd always preaches to us about how it was/is a fun and fast paced unique design while completely skipping over all of the drawbacks.
It wasn’t designed well, a core class mechanic needs to be able to work everywhere, and Voidform has no place in soloing/m+ content.
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Save for uh you also have a proc from VoP? I mean i dont understand. Every class has the same rotation buttons they push. You have an issue with being a caster it seems to me.
I raid with three destro locks and this is pretty much the consensus among them. The interesting aspect of the spec right now is setting up and optimising your havoc windows, but it’s not much of anything most of the time. Because of the overreliance on GoSup and other amplifiers for chaos bolt, it doesn’t feel like anything you’re doing is relevant unless its during infernal, which leads anything interesting you could be doing to otherwise just feel a bit pointless.
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Because they are succeeding at an extremely high level. If the undergeared person starts succeeding in content that matters, then I can start believing them. All of a sudden if he’s doing something new that is amazing, you can say wow I apologize you were right. But far more likely is they just lack the experience and the knowledge to know what they’re talking about