You can’t balance around a difficulty that no longer exists. Read what I’m saying closely so you can actually understand it this time. I am saying remove mythic as a whole, not just dungeons, but scrap the entirety of mythic everything. It’s not needed in today’s game, and the fact it produces players like you is all the more reason to get rid of it.
Yeah you are trying to put words in my mouth. I’ve already told you what I’m advocating, but you need me so desperately to be wrong you’re pretending I said something else. Point blank you do not know as much as you think you do about game development and need to be quiet before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
So let me get this straight, refusing to balance around 5% of a playerbase at the expense of the other 95% that will never touch that content for one reason or another is pushing money away? What universe are you from where that actually works because it sure isn’t this one.
Fortunately my work has spoken for itself over the years and doesn’t require you approval. But you do you dude.
Point blank dude, get over yourself. You don’t even comprehend just how little you know about how games work. You’re sitting here whining about how we can’t go back to pre-mythic days because it’ll drive off everyone in the playerbase even though we’re talking maybe 5% of people total if that, which is no great loss. You complain about how we can’t have the second chance tokens again because “they’re super RNG based” but are defending raiding as a whole which is RNG based. Either you hate RNG and it’s bad or it’s not, there is no middle ground here. So pick a side and stick to it.
And if you’re seriously going entire seasons without loot, that’s a you problem. Also I’m calling shenanigans that you’ve ever had that happen. Point blank dude, you portray yourself as an expert when you don’t even know the first thing about games and arguing against over 20 years of how things have worked. The fact that scrapping mythic would get rid of people like you means blizzard can’t do it soon enough.
Because it’s nothing but a glorified WoW version of “prestige” mode from CoD that adds no value to the game, and has been since it first came out in Pandaria. That and I don’t measure my accomplishments by things in a video game like you seem to do. So if you want to try to lord your m+ rating over people as though you’re accomplishing something of value, you do that. Let me know when one of you tryhards actually cures cancer or does something of value.
If I wanted to subject myself to a bunch of blowhards that take things way too seriously and constantly whine about “people won’t interrupt” and “x mechanic is too hard in mythic” then I would do m+. Otherwise if you’re in mythic and you don’t interrupt and are constantly whining about so called “it’s too hard” then why don’t you “s00p3r l33t” m+ guys adapt and get better? You know that whole git good you like to tell everyone else in the “not real content” section of the game.
Seriously, spare me the phony elitist outrage and pearl clutching.
I hear people say this a lot. But I myself only know a handful of people myself who actually run M+. I haven’t ran any since I came back and don’t miss them at all. I think WOW was better before them, and would be fine without them.
And just because you enjoy hard content doesn’t mean the entire game should be balanced around what you and 5% of the populace enjoy. Especially at the expense of the other 95%. I don’t mind challenging content within reason. What I DO however mind is the “sword” waving fest that’s mythic. The hardest thing about mythic is getting DPS that will actually interrupt and not stand in dumb all the time.
Mythic needs to be removed not because it’s “hard” but because of the toxic sword waving fest it’s become. The game was good enough to be the number 1 mmo for YEARS before mythic was ever a thing, and will still be good without mythic.
You talk about reaching yet post this:
Or this:
My dude you’re defending mythic like it’s your favorite super hero that’s been insulted on the playground. If you want to know why mythic needs to be removed, look at your lines in bold. Also if you want to know reaching, see lines in bold. Because you’re part of the problem with the game. If someone thinks mythic is bad for the game, it’s never because they legitimately think mythic is bad, it’s “you’re just bad” or “you just don’t have experience.” Nah my dude, I got enough experience with it in Pandaria to last a lifetime.
Just like you don’t cater your business products to 5% of your customer base at the expense of the other 95% of your customers, you don’t balance your game around 5% of people at the expense of the other 95%. Point blank dude again, you don’t know nearly as much as you think you do.
Actually it does. Any smart business will balance around being performed properly. You don’t balance hunters around joe snow in accounting that can’t manage barbed shot stacks properly.
Sir you have been the most toxic person in here.
You compared this game to curing cancer lol. Super toxic.
Nah I’m just pointing out the major flaws in your arguments.
So you have zero relevant experience in the last 4 expansions.
You have zero credibility or clue what you’re talking about.
Ah so according to you only the people in mythic know how to play the game and everyone else doesn’t matter. You just exposed your elitism there dude. Thanks for proving why you shouldn’t be taken seriously. The fact you honestly think a game with millions of people in it should only cater to around 1% of people shows just how delusional you are. Why would they make 10s of millions when they could make far less with the all of 500k people at most that have touched m+.
And there’s another example of elitism. If someone chooses not to join your “s00p3r l33t” club of m+ shills.
Actually dude, since you want to compare resumes let’s go there. I have 20 years experience creating content for other games such as TimeSplitters Future Perfect, Star Trek Armada 2, Space Engineers, and a few others. My maps for Timesplitters were EA recommended for weeks at the time. I’ve also completely rebalanced a couple of said games. There’s plenty of my work out there which speaks for itself. So if you want to sit here talk about not knowing anything, let’s see your work in game development. Because if you really want to pull the argument from authority card, I’ve forgotten far more than you will ever know.
I already told you why I chose to not engage with m+, because I didn’t like the “sword” waving fest. The more you speak, the more you prove my point for me about why m+ needs to be removed. There’s an entire rest of a game out there if you bothered to look beyond your DPS charts and m+ and the game doesn’t revolve around you. I know that’s hard for you to hear and comprehend but you’re not the end all be all you think you are. All you’re doing is proving to people why engaging with m+ is a bad idea. I don’t need to have a PhD in game design or have an m+ rating of infinity to know it’s a toxic game mode or know the game will do better without it.
As for “pointing out flaws” the only “argument” you’ve tried to pose is “why you mad bro” which isn’t even an argument. You believe I’m wrong, explain why.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night dude. It’s your fantasy, you can dream it however you want.
So only m+ knows how to play the game in your book. Good to know. Thanks again for proving your elitism.
Then by your own logic who the heck are you to say who is or isn’t playing properly since you don’t do mythic either.
every part of the game is required to have some sort of balance to it. Whether you agree with that balance is another story, but you can’t have content without setting base values for health, damage, and so on. The fact you think this doesn’t matter shows your woeful ignorance. If the game doesn’t know how much health a foe has or how much damage it’s supposed to do, then that foe cannot function. Also do tell how removing m+, which is a pve only thing will have an effect on pvp. This I’ve got to hear. Because last time I checked m+ pvp wasn’t a thing. Then there’s the fact that there’s been a major separation between what abilities do in pvp and pve for awhile. So you’re 0 for 3 on this one.
I don’t need a PhD in a subject to know that the mechanic telling me I need a new engine because I have a flat tire is a moron. Likewise in this instance I don’t need an infinity rating in m+ to know how it works or that it’s toxic.
Also I find it funny you want to rip on me for not touching mythic of my own accord for multiple expacs, yet just recently started mythic yourself. Once again, argument from authority fallacy doesn’t confer correctness on you. And even then by your own logic, what is your 2 expansions of m+ compared to my 20+ years of game development experience.
Okay and you’ve only ever played games. I’ve actually pulled them apart, rewrote them, added new content to them, and actually rebuilt them from the ground up. What have you done?
You can say whatever you want to cope, but we both know it’s an arrogance and elitism issue on your part.
Then why do I take up rent free space in your head because I won’t acknowledge your perceived moral superiority. Get over yourself.
In other words no one knows how to play but the m+ people and everyone else is doing it wrong in your book. What you said is there in plain black and white. Now you’re just trying to back peddle because you know you’re wrong. You gonna tell me that some goblin stole your keyboard and is impersonating you now?
Okay then by your own logic, how do you have any credibility or expertise to judge the top level since you don’t play it? You don’t even have the credentials to say anything by your own standards.
Objectively incorrect. In order for the game to know how much damage you are doing, the devs have to specify a specific base amount of damage for your abilities. They must also specify how much your spells and abilities benefit from stats, then they must specify how much hp the enemy has, how much resistances they have, and then calculate out all the math. Or did you think that stuff just grew on trees. This is what I’m talking about with you knowing nothing. Those things don’t just magically specify or code themselves.
And there’s the goal post shift right on schedule. So at first you’re talking about pve, then you claim removing a pve only thing in m+ would impact pvp too, but have yet to specify how even when asked. But now you’re magically talking about how it will effect both. Still waiting on that explanation of how removing m+ would effect pvp.
Your profile is publicly viewable dude, but good attempt at deflection. By your own logic, I never said this DK was the toon I dabled in mythics with when they first released in Pandaria. You assumed it was this DK. Convenient how when you’re called on this you want to hide behind “this wasn’t always my main.”
Still waiting on you to explain how your minor m+ experience trumps 20 years of actual game development knowledge when it comes to balance in WoW. By all means educate us since you think you know so much. You have no practical knowledge of games like you think you do. But good to know you have dreams.
Incorrect. I quoted the relevant section in the next box. You’re just being willfully ignorant and outright lying.
No I read it, you’re just back peddling because you realized you insulted 95% of the playerbase and don’t want your elitism put on blast.
Then by your own logic yet again you have no grounds to criticize anything since you don’t play at the uber max.
If you didn’t say that, then explain the second quotation box there where you plainly said “you also think this only effects pve.” So yeah you did try to cite pvp as to why removing m+ would be a bad idea. So try again.
Objectively incorrect. You not liking the balance doesn’t mean there is no balance requirement. You cannot even have a functioning game without a baseline balance as computers don’t play well with null values at all. Nor can they calculate something you don’t tell them to calculate. So not only do you show your ignorance of game design, but technology as a whole.
What, you mean you boosted a toon instead of playing the game. How are you this big bad mythic player yet you need to boost a toon? Convenient how you have every excuse under the sun when your own standards are applied to you. Talk about spin. But if we’re going here, I also played a shaman as my mythic toon in Pandaria. So let ye without alts cast the first stone.
You can’t play the content yet not play the content at the same time. You’ve said only mythics matter, yet said you don’t push the high high end which you previously required to before someone was entitled to an opinion. It’s really quite simple, you know nothing but pretend to know everything. You’re your own worst enemy and just keep making the case as to why mythic needs to be removed.
