Blizz ruined m+

I mean, today is the 11th day now that I have gotten zero gear upgrades. In that time, I’ve run more M0s than I can count, 5 M+s, and three raid bosses (normal). Zero. Upgrades.

At ilvl 183, I was instantly chosen for M0s last week. I am already being rejected now (still 183 ofc) more than I am being accepted for M+.

So, yes, I literally am becoming unable to do the content I want to do in-game. I know you’ll just say something cruel because that’s how you roll, but it feels bad.

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How about you realize I don’t care about raider. io?

On top of it, dozens of regular posters here post on alts, so I don’t go bothering to look at armories either unless I’m curious about their mog.

The loot change was announced MONTHS ago. Your primary source of loot is going to be the vault.

So you made a baseless claim about me without looking me up. Now you are trying to defend yourself because you are to lazy to go to a website. Again keep to yourself if you don’t know what you are talking about or are going to make baseless claims. Thanks. And this is on 1 single character that I have done 50+ runs.

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I am so honestly confused
People were yolo’ing through m0s week 1 in ilvl 140 & 150 gear, you did not need communication or “raid leading”
I hadn’t even done the normal or heroic versions of the dungeons before I walked through m0s, it really wasn’t that hard

It doesn’t make raids obsolete those who are doing mythic + are doing raids as well for the most part

Stop this “mythic + ruins my raids” nonsense

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I said somehow.

I did not say definite.

You didn’t read my post correctly either.

I’m done arguing with you.

I wasn’t trying to be cruel. I myself have stopped logging in. You quitting would be you telling the devs where they can shove their game.

God forbid that RNG remains RNG.

People got loot. You didn’t. That doesn’t mean the system is broken, it means you weren’t lucky.

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Seeing as it’s the same sub… your wording doesn’t work. We’ll probably see another record sub gain overall though.

As to the topic, they screwed raid loot too, so overall loot just sucks this expansion, it’s all about getting that weekly piece. I’d suffer not having the great vault to have better loot drops from content.

It took me 10 seconds to confirm their story. The person has run 50+ M+'s. They have a point, just because you were indirect in your poke, doesn’t mean you didn’t poke at all. It’s so easy to run your mouth in GD but then do a 180 when proof is shown.

Anyways,

I too haven’t seen weapon drops. For any of the people I run with. Thank Bastion, for BoE’s. Although I do have to say both you and I have gotten plenty of loot from M+ so it’s not too bad. We’ll see how the Vault turns out.

BFA set sub record losses
Classic saved wow
SL will set a new record
TBC will save subs again

Thats how it worked and will work.

Classic is getting very boring people will stop playing and SL just isnt very good. Once it starts to dwindle and it probably will much faster than BFA then TBC will be announced to start the classic hype over.

The real question is have they learned by now that retail is not good and that a classic-tbc-wotlk style expansion is what we need next. Game play needs to drastically change.

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Grind more. You’ve only timed 8 keys. Do you expect to be fully kitted?

Is this the state of general discussion complainers? You’re mad you’re not fully slotted when you’ve only ran 8 keys? LMAO, I actually have nothing but disrespect and distain for that opinion. Come back when you’ve farmed 22 more, then you can complain about empty slots.

It’s an absolutely ludicrous idea that you assume you should be gully geared to your level of play on the opening week of the season. It’s delusional, entitled, and frankly stupid. Loot is fine.

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all opinion with no facts.

Only people I have seen complaining about SL are the ones in GD. Everyone else is out there playing the heck out of this expansion. Even with the massive tuning that is still needed. There are queue times in servers. That isn’t indicative that this launch flopped, and its way too early to call the entire expansion’s success.

Yes, Classic brought subs that saved Retail when BfA. No denying that, because it happened.

But TBC is all but guaranteed. We all know it. When it gets announced in the online blizzcon in January it wont be “because its gonna save SL”. Its because its been planned for a long time now. Everyone knew the natural progression of the “Classic” franchise was going to be that.

Game play in Retail is being changed to a new generation of players. That’s just the facts. People lingering in nostalgia have 3 options, adapt, go to classic or leave. It’s what any business would do and that is fine.

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Tanks and healers shouldn’t be getting loot faster than DPS. That’s a recipe for not a good time.

Yes, heaven forbid you actually have to put forth effort to be rewarded for something.

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Its guaranteed because SL is a sht show lol.

They paraded SL around as all kinds of things that didn’t happen.

Same grindy re rolling, re gearing, FOTM style strategy to keep sheep paying and playing.

What is GD? Come back in 4 months to this thread tell me how SL is doing lol

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This is such an adorable notion, people will play it for a month before leaving it. Its pure nostalgia, nothing more.

Mate. I’m not sure you understand how “highest x keys” works. It can’t ever punish you.

Of you have done four 10s and then do a 4 the reward will be for your four highest keys will be from a 10. If you do three 10s and then do a 4 your reward will be from a 4, which is still a bonus because guess what? You wouldn’t have had a reward at all because you didn’t meet the requirements of doing four dungeons.

Please explain to me how in anyway this punishes players? If you hadn’t done those low keys you wouldn’t have been eligible for the reward, if you had already done them at the respective level you play at it won’t affect your reward.

It’s limited only in delivery, not acquisition. It makes sense that we get slightly less loot frequency in the current gearing design.

Think about it this way, currently you get 8 drops per dungeon per 20 players, the equivalent is 3 bosses downed in raid. Yet raid is limited to 10 bosses which is essentially 3.3 dungeons per week. PvP is even restricted to one piece every 2-3 weeks. Clearly there is still much more access to gear in M+ than there will ever be in any other content.

For obvious reasons great vault loot was left out since it is the equivalent of 1 per content type so it offsets each other.

Who would have thought that people don’t liked their time to be wasted. This is the same reason why their bs war on flying, and about every other system in this present game is looked on poorly. Why is it so hard for Blizzard to do right by the player base?

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meh, having a better chance at my BIS via the vault is worth it.

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