They’re going to wait to long to make changes that were needed yesterday.
Arena gear rating.
Deadly weapons are WORSE than weapons you can get afking through simple raids. Why are these 1800 rating gate kept?
All gear should be obtainable with arena points. Maybe keep the shoulders at a higher rating.
Participation is way way down.
I got on an alt and played some games with my irl friend who is new to arena. We played a ton of games. After hitting 1100 we went 40 games in a row without seeing anyone over our rating. We would lose 12 points and gain 10 per win.
On my main pushing past 1500 wasn’t difficult but with new players and guys like him who casually pvp but would still like to get the gear and participate will not be able to.
After a week of queing arena hes done. He will not arena anymore because he cannot get the very basic deadly gear without buying an arena boost. He is to far behind in gear and the gap is getting larger every week.
This is just small example and my opinion of course. I think arena is going to die off really fast if they don’t make changes right now.
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They can get Hateful gear and do just fine.
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I agree completely. All of us even the super try hards should want a large participation in arena, its very unhealthy for pvp if the bottom of the ladder falls out like what we seen in TBC.
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It will suck if we have to wait until Classic Cata to get a proper PvP gear/reward system.
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Do fine at what? There are huge numbers of players that will never bother with arena because the rating requirements don’t match the participation which only further decreases participation.
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I think the only gating behind arena gear should be weekly lockouts. You can get gear faster by being better but eventually everyone will get it.
Let the upper echelon have cosmetic rewards and titles/mounts.
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New to arena and quits after one week because he realized he may have to put some effort in.
Hateful gear is just fine for playing BGs. These types of threads keep proving blizz right. Folks thought they wanted classic but really didn’t.
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You are missing the point. In OG Wrath hitting 1800 was trivial and everyone who tried was able to get deadly glad weapons and most of the gear. Getting head and shoulders was a little bit more work, but still doable. Now hitting 1500 is about equivelent to hitting 1800 from back then.
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Guy can still get full hateful and im sure he can push 13-1400 with some practice to get the deadly off pieces. The hardest gear to get for pvp in this xpac will most likely be coming from pve anyways.
The reality is the player you described will almost certainly just give up on arena regardless of whether he can get 1-2 extra deadly pieces.
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I love how Arena players just blurt out “you can get way better weapons doing PvE”…
Sure bud, lemme know when you get that torch lol. Its been 4 weeks, havent seen one, and 10 people want one. Im 11th in line for it. “BuT iTs So EaSy To GeT oNe”
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Hateful gear is completely fine for getting to 1800-1900 with.
By then you can buy more and more pieces until its just helm and shoulders.
I kinda doubt the 18 resil difference between both piecese combined will skyrocket a 1400 player to 2200 lol
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You can get the Hateful gear from emblems AND just doing minimum 10 games per week combined with honor. So 2 outlets, one if them isn’t even PvP related.
Oh and VoA drops PvP pieces too.
It’s actually really easy to get Hateful if you are actually playing the game.
Casual pvpers who want to be geared should stop XP in the 79 bracket or wait for Cata.
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Just another statistic that I would like to point out regarding the current state of arena PvP.
Gladiator (Top 0.5% of players) is currently just a few points above 2k rating in all brackets. That means if you want to buy the deadly helm/shoulders, you need to basically be the top 1% of PvPers. Also, if you want to buy the deadly weapons, you need to be in the top 3%.
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If you want the gear, you’ll have to put in the work to get said gear.
I have 3/5 deadly already. I assume you are being willfully ignorant about the problem here.
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To be fair, the season only just started so rating is still a tad deflated. As time goes on the rating will even out and the fixed thresholds for gear will become alot easier to obtain.
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Oh? The rating is creating a disparity that transcends into an uneven playing field through all the PvP content?
I mean, no one saw that coming; and not like it hasn’t happened before either right?
Rating average is literally going down right now. Because participation is dying fast.
Regardless of that, even if it did went up, it won’t go very high and the challenger rating will at most be 1500. It is absolutely unhealthy for PvP for the top 35% of players to be the only ones capable of affording more than 1 piece of the deadly set.
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The season started 1 week into the expansion. That is not fair at all.
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