Blizz: If you stop firing all your employees, would that help get more than one content patch out per year?

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Activision merged or whatever you want to call it with Blizz in 2008 so are you saying that every 2 months and 10 days to 3 months there was a patch from 2004 till 2008?

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Patch 7.3.5 Level scaling

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Patch 7.3.5 16 January 2018 25848 70300 * Level scaling to below level 100 zones

Patch 7.3 Shadows of Argus

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Patch 7.3.0 29 August 2017 24920 70300 * Travel to Argus on the Vindicaar

Patch 7.2.5 Deaths of Chromie

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Patch 7.2.5 13 June 2017 24330 70200 * The Deaths of Chromie scenario
and Chromie faction

Patch 7.2 Tomb of Sargeras

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Patch 7.2.0 28 March 2017 23826 70200 * Tomb of Sargeras raid added

Patch 7.1.5 Nighthold

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Patch 7.1.5 10 January 2017 23360 70100 * Nighthold raid

Patch 7.1.0 Return to Karazhan

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Patch 7.1.0 25 October 2016 22900 70100 * Return to World of Warcraft: Legion Karazhan

Patch 7.0.3 Legion

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Patch 7.0.3hotfix11 30 August 2016 22566 70000 * Expansion enabled with server-side switch
Patch 7.0.3hotfix12 14 September 2016 22594 70200 * Unknown bug fixes
Patch 7.0.3hotfix13 20 September 2016 22624 70200 * Unknown bug fixes
Patch 7.0.3hotfix14 5 October 2016 22747 70200 * Unknown bug fixes
Patch 7.0.3hotfix15 12 October 2016 22810 70200 * Unknown bug fixes

Patch 7.0.3 Legion Pre-expansion

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Patch 7.0.3 19 July 2016 22248 70000 * Improved transmogrification system
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Yoo thanks for proving my point for me - this time line proves I’m correct. The time between CONTENT patches far exceeds 77 days. The intervals between major patches are all nicely lined up there for everyone to see.

Unless you actually think mid-tier change list patches and 3 quest mid tier story is content. lol

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I guess you can’t add lol. The first patch was 55 days in. The rest were 2 1/2 months on the nose.

Patch 7.1.0 25 October 2016 (55 days)
Patch 7.1.5 10 January 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.2.0 28 March 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.2.5 13 June 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.3.0 29 August 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.3.5 16 January 2018 <---- longest streak with no content.

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actually, all of the devs didnt get fired… they quit because blizzard is a terrible company to work for and good devs have better places to go these days.

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Yes that are what we know off. But what about the budget cuts they made we don’t know off? hence this game runs like a old wet dish rag.

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Again - those were micro patches, the raid and major content releases staggered oddly in legion. While the patch itself RELEASED on that time line the content was TRICKLED in. Nighthold opened on january 10th, during 7.1.5 - > on march 28th you got broken shore BUT NOT the raid or new season, instead you got a weekly 3 quest nothing for months, and the actual new content, season for m+ and raid dropped on june 20th, a full five months after night hold.

Your using patch release dates as a metric for something that didn’t happen. The patches released with trickle story lines in legion - basically a nothing burger for 2 months before the new seasons begun. This is all through legion. That’s not content. The patches dropped months in advance of the actual meat being available to play.

So no, you’re still wrong.

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When was this ever a thing?

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  1. Covid-19. Do you really expect them to push content at Legion Pace (something they abandoned with BFA which had 6 month patch cycles), amid a pandemic and all the delays and development halt that the pandemic caused for Shadowland’s development and the continual slowdown with devs now working from home?

  2. Activision sub studio and e-sports division employees were laid off (not fired), As for the core Activision and Blizzard developer headquarters/studios, those remained relatively untouched other than some executive/accounting department reorganization, retirements, etc.

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Patch 7.1.0 25 October 2016 (55 days)
Patch 7.1.5 10 January 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.2.0 28 March 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.2.5 13 June 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.3.0 29 August 2017 (77 days)
Patch 7.3.5 16 January 2018 <---- longest streak with no content.

Um, we still got new content with these patches. No matter how much you want to spin it, you’re the one that is wrong here.

Dunning Kruger on full display here yet again.

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It wasn’t, he’s reading the time line incorrectly. He doesn’t remember or didn’t play during that time. While the patches came out in about 2 1/2 intervals the actual seasons and raids were on 5-6 month release windows. He doesn’t recall that while the patch came out, the raids and seasons were gated for months after, behind 2 months of 3 quests a week quest chains. A big ol’ nothing burger.

You’re the one who doesn’t understand. It’s getting a little sad actually. Unless you really do count 3 quests a week as content for 2 full months before the patches were finally actually realized. You honestly believe the 2 months of broken shore were content? I wanna live in your dream reality.

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now do BFA

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I don’t think it’s ideal, but I also don’t think that it’s in itself something to be upset over. If you’re having fun with the game, keep playing, if not, go do something that’s more fun. Our insistence that the patch happen faster will not make a quality patch happen faster.

Maybe they really like the Chromie solo content?

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Just to add to this topic.

Good businesses don’t fire people, they re-allocate them when restructuring. I work for a very, very large corporation and their first response is never to fire people in obsolete positions. They first try to place them in new ones if their qualifications match.

That’s basic human capital management. But evidently a factor that shareholders are very angry at Bobby K’s lack of management that there of.

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It’s very possible. I am being a little biased here in my thinking - to me content is the pvp/m+/raid seasons. Not the between content like small quest lines or invasions. He could very well think those count as content and believe his 77 day argument.

No tier in contemporary wow lasts less than 5 months - that would be a waste of development time for a raid that isn’t 3 boss mini-tiers.

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No you don’t understand. Your argument is one giant strawman. The fact is, we got content every 77 days Legion and that is much quicker pace than we are getting now. This is what the discussion is about, not what you deem as content.

So get off your high horse and stop attacking people’s intelligence here like you are some kind expert on the subject.

Furthermore, layoffs regardless of what position they are have an impact on an entire company, especially when you lay off so many at once. You don’t think the development teams didn’t get demoralized after losing so many people on the staff? This for sure has had an impact on the entire staff. All the rumors coming from the remaining team have expressed concern with the current moral among the remaining staff.

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They counted towards one persons 200 million bonus,

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M+ and PVP seasons are not new content really. A new affix is not content.

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The morale at blizzard has been low for a long time. They have an abysmal reputation here in Austin (they have a headquarters here).

You’re right, my idea of content might not be yours. I’m talking strictly in terms of m+/raid/pvp seasonal releases, which were on 5-6 month intervals and much longer for the final tier. You may very well count the small trickle of quest content added every 77 days as content while I do not.

We’re both living in our own respective bubbles.