Not sure if my trust level has slipped or not. The fact one has to keep up with clicky clicky and scrolly madly was not something I realized when I tried to get it max level. Just lost heart after finding it wasn’t a permanent trust…which is, really, not trust at all, just temporary tolerance. So here’s what may or may not be the link, but I thought I’d try. It’s such a great song. Miss you, Ziggy.
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There is no Blizzard, there is only Tencent.
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What the fk?
This is going to be hard for some to swallow, but we aren’t the center of attention anymore. Our middle class is shrinking and China’s is growing. It’s going to get pretty uncomfortable, but you’re going to have to get used to our money not being as good as theirs.
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Alright, let’s repeat this once more for you guys.
The reality of China is that if you do not act against political dissent, that makes you complicit to the situation. They could have not banned the guy, sure, but then that would have every single employee involved with the event at potential risk of “disappearing” or “re-education” for not doing so. Do you think that is the better option?
Maybe, just maybe the guy shouldn’t have forced them in this position by acting against the ToS and making a gaming company’s event a political stage for some outburst of his?
If you think China would have let it slide then by all means, go to China and try and do the same. See where it gets you.
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The Mei edits are being spammed like crazy everywhere. I’m just waiting until she’s removed from the game at this point. They already don’t allow Taiwanese OWL players to use their country’s flag or name to capitulate to China, so if Mei happens to become a symbol against the CCP…
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Are you saying that they have less risk of reprisal because of what Blizzard did? I don’t think that to be true. They will still have a bad mark on their files if not worse.
Oh yes that’s a great argument, if you disagree with me go get yourself killed or jailed in China.
Yikes. Good job Blizzard. Enjoy your BlizzCon.
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Absolutely, yes. That is how you avoid being counted as “complicit” in this situation. It’s much, much worse to just not do anything and air something like that and pretend it didn’t happen.
China isn’t blind, why do you think they were so quick to act. They have families to feed too man, I don’t think they feel like being arrested or worse just because one guy decided to make their event a political stage against the ToS.
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That’s how Blizzard doesn’t look complicit in the action. Don’t try to say that this help the casters or the player.
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Netease is the company developing Diablo Immortal for them in addition to being their distributor. They will hug to Netease as tightly as possible.
Casters and players no, but I didn’t say that. I’m talking about the event employees and Chinese employees that Blizzard has.
Don’t deliberately misunderstand my post. I was very clear on what I was talking about. The casters and player are still very much in big trouble for saying and encouraging that, but that is a seperate issue from Blizzard. That is a China being evil issue.
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At this point, this is a lot of mental gymnastic to defend China, when you describe it as evil. Maybe they should not have employees in China and have competitions done over the internet with a caster desk in a place where employees don’t face retribution by their government. I don’t think that’s asking too much.
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Sadly it’s not that simple. You could argue that Blizzard should have never started business in China in the first place, and that’s fair enough aye, though companies being the way they are it was in their strong financial interest to do so. And you could argue from their side that they are not a political entity so this should have never become an issue, but unfortunately here we are.
And right now it’s too late to pull out of China, because the company could never recover from losing that many players. Absolutely not, their stocks would nosedive and it would be a real gutpunch.
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Riiiight. Maybe this guy should have kept his pro-human rights views to himself so that Blizzard wouldn’t have to face the uncomfortable truth that they’re directly supporting a known oppressive, tyrannical, violent regime for the sake of sweet, sweet cash.
But no, the player who was banned and has his winnings stolen is toooootally the one at fault here. Jesus, you people need to listen to yourselves. And no, he didn’t breach any “politics” clause, because there isn’t one.
The precise rule Blizzard cited for the ban states that they can punish you at any time for any reason, entirely at their discretion, as long as they claim your actions could potentially hurt their image or their profits. That’s how vague it is, and rather ironic too, considering Blizzard did a million times more damage to their own image with their own actions.
A pro player made a pro-HK/basic human rights statement, which of course “offended” China, thus Blizzard acted to ban him before China punished them, as they’ve already done to other companies who dared to demonstrate pro-HK or “anti-China” views.
Blizzard absolutely knew the volatile market and corrupt government they were getting in bed with, so everything that falls on them at this point is entirely their fault.
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I like how you’re ignoring the part that this statement of his put the lives and lifelyhoods of the employees in danger.
You can argue that Blizzard should have never done business in China in the first place, i’ll grant you that if you were to say it. You can’t ignore however that by choosing a gaming event of all things to spout his political views that he knew would be upsetting to China he was putting lives at risk of people that didn’t want to be involved. So it’s no wonder that they ban the guy and want to show that they have nothing to do with it.
on a side note, are you also boycotting all the other businesses that have places in China as well then? Because if it counts for Blizzard it should count for all of them, or is it okay for them to have business in China but not Blizzard?
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This solves the misunderstanding.
I, personally, will be making informed decisions on all of my purchases moving forward. Best news, Samsung is closing their last factory in China this year. Time to upgrade my s7 next year. But it wont only be electronics. Im going to check my future purchases in clothes, food, and amazon knickknacks.
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I’m ignoring something you literally just made up; why would I address nonsensical false polemics you invented?
You also don’t seem to realise that this invented scenario of yours just puts Blizzard back wholly at fault for ever setting up a situation where their own financial decisions could potentially put multitudes of “lives in danger” with such ease.
That’s staggeringly incompetent at best, and actively criminal at worst.
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You’ve just described Wallstreet in a nutshell.
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