Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

That works. My wife would get jealous too.

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Hardcore Amen to that!

All this BS is probably slowing down development too.

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Blizzard deserves the criticism. They had and still have a choice to make.

I don’t care if there was a contract or if it was chinese law, blah blah blah… Activision is an American company who benefits from the sacrifices made by its servicemen and women past and present, some of whom we can never speak to again. They take government subsidies and pay almost nothing on billions in profits. They certainly enjoy the protection and freedom we all pay for.

They chose to appease a violent totalitarian regime. I don’t care if it costs profits or American jobs, frankly an American’s soul should not have price tag in Chinese Yuan.

Personally I’m hoping they find their American backbone sometime between now and Blizzcon and if not… there’s always another MMO.

Yup. Design Skin, Sell Skin, Donate Profits, Improve Image while writing off overhead. Truly changing the world with that. I went back and looked at their donations and they were all pass through. People who directly volunteer for these causes do more. Volunteer to help several children catch up to grade level on reading and over the course of the year you’ve put in nearly as many man hours as these efforts take. At a much higher personal cost.

Anyone who has contacted their government officials demanding sanctions if the government response escalates has done as much as any individual can. Keeping it in the news, and holding our corporations to account as enablers is doing something.

Really bad news for you though - Blizzard is Activision.

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Please provide a quote from the ToC which covers this incident.

Are you thinking about posting,

“any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard.”

?

If so, explain to us how supporting basic human rights damages Blizzard’s image or brings one into disrepute.

Because I was under the impression that supporting human rights was a virtuous act.

What are you even talking about? I am not bashing a video game, tell me what game I’m bashing. I’ll expand on my opinion for you. An American company, based in the United States, shouldn’t be assisting foreign governments in censoring or oppressing their citizens. In a similar way this is why it was a problem when another organization tried to meddle in the internal affairs of the United States on Facebook and that organization was Cambridge Analytica.

Blizzard is a company in California and subject to American laws. If U.S.laws aren’t something Activision-Blizzard respects they can do what other companies who think the same way do…they move their operations outside of the United States so they aren’t breaking the laws here.

Multiple politicians in the United States spoke out against Blizzard doing this so this isn’t just an opinion found on these forums. One politician spoke about Activion-Blizzard humiliating itself just to make a quick buck and the other spoke about the values of the United States and how these actions go against those.

Activision-Blizzard is in a country that protects them while they block citizens of another country in a blatant attempt to remove those same rights from those people.

How do you know this is blatant? This is what Activision-Blizzard wrote (from the United States) and it’s so telling. They literally say that they are enforcing the will of government of China – not one rule was cited. Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. https://youtu.be/bbPrbqE06Y4?t=203

We pay Activision-Blizzard for their games and services not for them to censor the speech of gamers in another country to appease a government at conflict with that country.

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I also saw people burning their physical Blizzard games in protest, even though they’re all digital now so it doesn’t even matter. Also they already paid money for them, so doesn’t even matter.

Some people are not smart and just enjoy being meaninglessly angry. The sad part is their outrage being directed at Blizzard does exactly nothing to help Hong Kong either lol.

I wasn’t talking to you, don’t feel that special. Now, is sad too see so many people pretending to care just for a bit of dopamine and feeling special.

It’s symbolic. It’s like burning a flag. A synecdoche if you’re into that sort of thing.

Burning a game is at least better than burning your shoes because you hate Trump.

Who was burning their shoes because they hate Trump? I thought people burned their Nikes because they were mad about football man kneeling during the national anthem being in a Nike commercial.

And nah it’s literally the same thing, you already paid for those games/shoes, burning them doesn’t matter one iota.

this whole situation brings to light how many people really do lack critical thinking in the world.

Give some other new drama and the sjws will flock over to it real quick to try and show that they have the high morale stand.

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Right after the election there was a thing where people were angry about New Balance because their CEO said something about how Trump’s tax plan would benefit his company. (Which was true, because NB still manufactures in the US and would benefit from protections.)

People burned their NB shoes and for a couple of months in certain areas you would literally get stink-eye or an argument for showing up in public wearing NB.

Fun times, because my gym shoes were NB and I’m smack dab in the middle of liberal Los Angeles.

And no, it’s not the same thing. A physical copy of a game is a useless trinket when a digital copy exists, while a pair of shoes is a useful, physical object which serves a purpose.

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I think burning anything in protest that you already spent money on as a “middle finger” to a company is just really dumb. In fact, I’m pretty sure there was a study done that people who burn their stuff/throw it away in protest just go back and buy new ones in like a month or so anyway, like with that whole protest over that Gilette commercial.

Fine.

How do you feel about burning American flags?

Do you support ANY kind of symbolism in protests?

Is this about Ellen sitting next to George at some baseball game?

Burning American flags still seems pretty pointless to me, too. Let’s say I burn a Chinese flag over what China is doing to the people of Hong Kong, it still kinda does nothing. I’m more about action, get out and vote, spread information around to let people know which candidate supports the people of Hong Kong, etc. It just feels lazy to sit around burning stuff and be like “I’m helping!”.

I do like symbolism in protests when it’s symbolism that points out or criticizes someone/something, like when people make protest signs using symbolism. Burning stuff? Nah not really.

The day I deleted my Tumblr account was the happiest day of my life.

It lasted only 7 days, but it was a good lesson on life.

Oh okay so it’s only fine when it’s something you personally like.

The point of protesting is to make people angry and annoyed with you until they do what you want. Or get angry enough with you to break the laws or do something the ruins their image and cause. So in that sense burning chinese flags would be a good protest. I bet you can get a communits face as red as his flag when you burn that thing.

Yes it’s only fine to me when it’s something I personally like, considering you asked me my personal opinion on it.