Whenever I see that beginning I just start laughing. Anything after that will make my day.
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Pinche cabrón
Not all of them considers themselves somewhat British buuut it is funny for those that did. Apparently when the UK handed HK back to China they gave people in HK the option to retain their British passport saying “they still consider HK people a part of the UK”. The catch though is that it gave those who opted to get a British passport the illusion that they are indeed british only to realize now that having that passport does not give them the right to live and work in the UK. The passport only makes their travel visa free to the UK and that’s it. A few weeks ago a big group of these protesters also protested outside the British Embassy to ask for the UK to give them full British citizen rights. The UK obviously just ignored them lolz. A big slap in the face sadly. They held up their British passport with the word “British Overseas Citizen”. The fear is that once HK fully reverts back to China in 2047 that these British passport holder might become stateless since UK obviously does not want them and China might not allow them to convert back to a chinese passport for rioting and proclaiming loyalty to another country.
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I ask you this, people whom are so eager to speak against Blizzard on this issue.
What do you think might have happened to the employees of the event or Blizzard in China if the company there lets political “dissent” like this slide without any punishment. Do you think China would give them hugs and kisses for being so very brave?
Not a company’s job to be your political stage, do not force this decision on them and do not put them in such a difficult position by breaking the ToS that warns specifically against this. The event was for entertainment, not political outbursts.
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The overly zealous protesters?
Can you be overly zealous for your liberty?
I partially agree with what you are saying here. Freedom of speech is indeed a principle and it is a principle we can really all get behind.
However, the real world application of this principle is extremely difficult. It’s clear we can’t just have people say whatever they want, that’s why there are other laws which limits the scope of freedom of speech, such as racism, promotion of terrorism etc.
So in reality our freedom of speech is not true freedom, it is still governed by other sets of principles which forms our first amendment. The reason why it is only applied to the government is because the government is powerful enough to suppress all voices. They can shut down the media, and stop communication channels. The first amendment is there keep the government in check from abusing its powers.
The majority of private companies don’t have powers so vast as to silence all voices against it, there are alternative media platform where people can voice their opinions against them if they so wish. Therefore our law dictates that they can formulate their own rules on what the company image and voice should be.
There are companies that have certain political alignments, and there are companies that are neutral, this is completely at their discretion on which direction to take. In a way, you can say that this is the “company’s” freedom of speech.
For companies that trade globally however, it is more difficult. Values are fundamentally different between cultures and countries. Values are even different between individual employees within the company which they often need to hire for their overseas offices. unlike local companies, it is almost impossible to align the company with certain political agendas without infuriating the people that don’t agree with it.
Blizzard is a company operates a business that is not political in nature, that’s why they chose their company image and voice to be politically neutral and they have set clear rules on how their platform should be free of politics. It is their “freedom” to choose what their platform’s “speech” should be. And that speech they want, is about games.
Lets look at a scenario if Blizzard allowed politics on their platform, it would no doubt manifest into a political forum, where today a player supports HK, tomorrow a player supports China. Every single tournament would become a political promotion campaign for various beliefs, the people with different believes would in turn get angry, every tournament would turns in to a chaotic abusive fest of ugliness. Is this what you want?
People question the harshness of the bann, and compare it to cheating. While I won’t say what punishment should have been befitting, all I can say is that i think Blizzard considered this breach to be very very serious, heaps and bounds more serious than a player cheating, because this is the company’s image that person tried to destroy, it’s a fundamental principle the company is trying to uphold.
In terms of true freedom of speech, the principle is becoming increasing diluted even in our western societies, this is mainly due to the internet age, a few of our social media companies grew so large and influential, they are almost considered a new form of media in their abilities to sway public opinions.
However, they are still considered by law as private companies. They are not bound by media’s rules to censor. They traded as a platform to welcome all opinions, in many ways they were platforms where speeches were truly free, but as you can see today, it also attracted a lot of problems.
Our government now says that those platform are being used by foreign government to create disinformation campaigns, and its grip are increasingly tightening on social media, to the point where any opinion that does not support
the bipartisan stance of the government will often not get published or deleted under the disinformation banner, even if it is just your personal opinion.
So now we have large social media companies where many of us get our daily news from, yet those news are tailored to the government’s agendas, any dissenting voice is classified as disinformation and deleted, the principle of freedom of speech looks a bit like a joke now doesn’t it? How are we different from the Chinese dictating censorship? It’s obviously not that bad yet, but that is indeed the direction we are heading to, which is terrifying.
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1950’s they took over Tibet
1950 1953 they helped north Korea attack south.
1962 China and India war over Territory
1967 again war with India
1969 conflict with Russia
1979…China-Vietnam War…was a very bloody battle
Shall i go on
Go on please, what’s next?
Let’s start from 1979:
|1983|Grenada|United States Intervention|
|1989|US Invasion of Panama|United States vs. Panama|
|1990–1991|Persian Gulf War|United States and Coalition Forces vs. Iraq|
|1995–1996|Intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina|United States as part of NATO acted peacekeepers in former Yugoslavia|
|2001–present|Invasion of Afghanistan|United States and Coalition Forces vs. the Taliban regime in Afghanistan to fight terrorism.|
|2003–2011|Invasion of Iraq|United States and Coalition Forces vs. Iraq|
|2004–present|War in Northwest Pakistan|United States vs. Pakstan, mainly drone attacks|
|2007–present|Somalia and Northeastern Kenya|United States and Coalition forces vs. al-Shabaab militants|
|2009–2016|Operation Ocean Shield (Indian Ocean)|NATO allies vs. Somali pirates|
|2011|Intervention in Libya|US and NATO allies vs. Libya|
|2011–2017|Lord’s Resistance Army|US and allies against the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda|
|2014–2017|US-led Intervention in Iraq|US and coalition forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria|
|2014–present|US-led intervention in Syria|US and coalition forces against al-Qaeda, Isis, and Syria|
|2015–present|Yemeni Civil War|Saudi-led coalition and US, France and Kingdom against the Houthi rebels, Supreme Political Council in Yemen and allies|
|2015–present|US intervention in Libya|US and Libya against ISIS|
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Well your attitude is definitely not American. Growing up in the US, I was taught we should stand for freedom. I know that our current political parties have been forgetting this more and more, but the reality is that’s part of America’s unique culture and bot or no, you don’t know your culture as an “American”
At the end of WWII we helped establish peaceful democratic societies in the countries we beat. That was us coming a long way from colonial days and was a huge sacrifice economically as well as militarly. America hasn’t done everything right, but its best ideals are defending freedom the world over and unfortunately everyone seems to be forgetting this.
Ill let you find them i really should not do all your home work…but to be Naive and think in China’s innocent never started anything…also lets not forget the Concentration camps for muslims in the Western part of country…errrr i mean reducation camps…
Good. You hate politics. Now…
Here’s a question:
Do you think WoW lore has politics, and are you underemphasizing it’s power, influence and role in our day to day life in hopes to escape it?
Don’t quote me because you don’t like a comment I made, as if I started the discussion.
You just quoted it because somehow you felt victimized by it otherwise you wouldn’t have been engaging in a topic you obvious have disdain for.
You and your hyperbolic generation of misfits thinking they can avoid politics or reality just because you’re playing a game better wake up.
Meanwhile
Epic Games declared that they won’t ban players from tournaments for making Political Statements
BLIZZARD made Epic Games look like they have high integrity
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“Concentration camps for muslims” , yes, same as “organs”
Do some research and don’t blindly trust the media from only one side. Your gov have made a bunch of lies like “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction”.
These are lots of video uploaded from Xinjiang to Youtube by the local residents, most of them are muslims. Just search them.
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To be fair ‘weapon of mass destruction’ is not a lie, as anything can be a weapon of mass destruction. Someone’s fist can be a weapon of mass destruction. They deliberately made it vague, so they could make it up as they went along.
Weapons of mass destruction might give us images of nuclear missiles, but the thing with ‘lies’ is that you have to word them right so you can change the truth and make it up as you go along so that way you can say you were never lying
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Lol ok i see what i am dealing with good luck…
I know that I’d be pretty ticked off as a Blizzard shareholder if the company had their games banned in China – nearly a fifth of the world’s population – by allowing this to slide.
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Well to be fair I used to think you nuked a democracy into existence in Japan, but it’s still a constitutional monarchy with an Emperor, might have pushed it back into the shadows a bit but the great Japanese Empire still stands.
1 day…almost 7.5k posts on the topic. Here’s some Lo Fi as a short break as this debate winds down for the night. Love you all, gods speed.
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Wonder when that will bite Epic in the rear.
You are free to say your mibd but are not exempt from the consequences of your actions.
Very few ppl are playing Fortnite in China.