Well you can go to a shopping center without fear that some crazy person is going to start randomly shooting people, though they do get bomb scares, but we are safer in Australia statistically than in the USA…but in all honesty, I know this isn’t a popular thing to say, but if you get murdered here, its usually because you got involved in the wrong crowd. Stay away from druggies and alcoholics and you will be fine. Also, I once made the mistake of moving to a bogan suburb in pursuit of love and happiness, let me tell you, don’t do that…as long as you can avoid those mistakes, you will be fine.
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It did hurt Nikes image back in the day. One could say they lost their “supremacy” because of that.
Right, because every intellectual immediately calls the opposing party a sheep. Thanks for showing that intelligence.
Would you like if someone came into your backyard spouting all sorts of ideals you are against? Or maybe it’s even ideals you support - that’s cool and all - but you’re trying to get some sleep and they’re instead causing a racket and at this current moment in time you don’t have the time nor energy to listen to them. There is a time and a place for everything and he chose the wrong place. Maybe he didn’t know! Maybe he did know! And I support him all the way! But all this business blowing up since this morning that suddenly snowballed to what it is now since Sunday is honestly ridiculous. Instead of blasting yourself with “Hey hehe I unsubbed my $15 to boycott Blizz” spend your energy elsewhere with something better and maybe donate to some organization thats looking for aid to Hong Kong. Or take the $15, put gas in your car, and go find some protest.
I’m sure there’s bound to be hella protests now if not sooner.
The issue really isn’t whether the punishment was excessive or unfair, but whether the conduct fell within the applicable provision and whether Blizzard abused its discretion in applying it.
I don’t see anything in the ToS language that restricts Blizzard’s remedy (i.e., punishment issued). So I’m going to say, excessive or not, Blizzard was well within its rights.
Having said that, if enough people can make a direct financial impact (as they did with the now-infamous 19 day “no flight” debacle) then you may see some action by Blizzard to remedy that. However, it seems unlikely that enough people are “outraged” bout this to put their money, so to speak, where their mouths are.
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“Back in the day”, that was like a year ago. And no it didn’t, their stock went up after people burned their Nikes.
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Not sure about a year ago, I mostly remember when it got leaked that they had children making their shoes. Thought you were talking about their biggest fiasco.
So what do you think of trade war for?
And why the politicians started to concerning the things in Hongkong? Actually the same kind of protest happened once in 2014, no USA governor said a word.
The anti-China movement has just begun, more nationalism actions will come out. Or under the name of “human right”.
During this, witch hunting will cotinue, every one will be asked to pick a side. Let’s see.
I’m an Australian living in Hong Kong for years and I’m not happy with people trying to get involved in our affairs especially with their laughable grasp of the situation. Trying to decide winners and losers in someone else’s country is the height of colonial arrogance.
The protesters have a right to be angry about how the British built up Hong Kong with Taipans at its heart which seriously screwed the economics of the place. They don’t have the right to get violent with people who had no part in that.
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But see there is a place and a time for things to be said. He chose the wrong place. At least with cheaters its still within the scope of the game which is honestly what Blizzard was trying to be and do: keep themselves within the scope of a game.
Yes I get it, I know Blizz is partnered with China for business and business makes money. But even if he had said something in the support of China it still would have led to his removal as per their policy. And it’s not like its a permanent ban, it’s a year ban. Yes, he had his winnings taken away. And yes, he can’t participate for a year which means next year - if he wants to - he’ll be able to.
On that note though, what is the punishment for someone cheating in Hearthstone competition?
I’m talking about when Nike ran an ad with Colin Kaepernick in it and people burned their Nikes in response. Like that picture I posted of someone burning their Blizzard games.
And then after people did that, Nike stock prices went up.
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It absolutely IS the issue. Nobody reasonable was expecting Blitzchung to not get punished for what he did, not even Blitzchung himself.
The severity of the punishment is sending a clear message to the Hearthstone, Blizzard and now the worldwide community as a whole, saying that “violating the rules by cheating is a lesser offense than violating the rules and offending China”.
It’s an aspect that many outside the HS community either can’t, or won’t understand. What Blizzard did to Blitzchung was like executing someone for littering, it was a ridiculously excessive punishment that was clearly political in nature.
It was clear as day to anyone with any sort of experience in understanding HS punishments that Blitzchung was being made an example of.
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Yeah sure, I’m an advocate of free speech. I’m not going to take sides. I’ll remain neutral. Just look at Steam, they didn’t cave in to SJW, anti-free speech like you. You’re using analogies that makes zero sense whatsoever. Backyard? Wtf is that?!
In law, this is known as the doctrine of “unclean hands.” And depending on the subject matter, it’s definitely not fallacious. A colloquialism is “the pot calling the kettle black.” It may not be a valid claim, but it is difficult to overlook the hypocrisy.
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If he doesn’t disappeared first ofc you mean.
But when the question is of Chinas crimes against humanity, saying “But the US did bad stuff too” is not a valid counterargument
Again, the severity of punishment by the terms of the ToS was left entirely to Blizzard’s sole discretion.
Just pointing out it will be difficult to establish (legally) an abuse of discretion here, even if you believe Blizzard was wrong.
Well you’re right about one thing, none of us have any clue what’s really happening up there or in China, I agree with that.
It is a political statement in a forum with rules prohibiting political statements. Just because you agree with the statement doesn’t make it less inappropriate or worthy of the banhammer.
Just because you like their message more doesn’t make it less political, and doesn’t change it to suddenly being an appropriate forum. You don’t get to pick and choose “Well, I like this guy, so I’ll let him violate contracts, but this guy’s a jerk, so we’ll ban him.” That is how you get sued for discrimination. You either uphold the contract for everyone, or don’t enforce it on anyone.
US did it inside their own country plenty of times, too, as the Native Americans could tell you. Or the Japanese-Americans who were put in concentration camps during WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Bull. Nike was a big name in athletic wear then, and they’re still a big name. But they had lost their universal “supremacy” long before. If anything, it vaulted Nike back to the forefront, as people went out and bought more Nike stuff once the boycott was over.
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Looooool thanks for the giggles. Did I say anything about denying free speech? I don’t think I did. And SJW lmao alright you’re not really worth the time and energy
Bye felicia
I completely agree with that comment. But not exactly the same. Now, it would not be fallacious if the US was criticizing China for doing exactly what the US does. But a sweeping generalization as in your example IS definitely fallacious.