Blizz hits us with the ole bait and switch

It boosts the damage done by your Vers Damage modifier by 40% of that.

IE if you have 20% Vers, you get 20% damage increase, if you use both trinkets you get a 28% damage increase.

Is that better, that having a Cheat Death and a 6k smack on use trinket? That depends on your class, and playstyle.

So in the example i listed-- is it better to go with the best ilvl?

Read the edit.

“Depends on your class and playstyle”

No one can really answer that for you, and how you and your team plays.

If you want to be competitive the best gear will come from raiding.

There really isn’t a ton of reason to even bother pvping until the catchup cap increases.

Top players will be doing the below list.

-full clear heroic raid first week.
-create armor stacks and farming m7s to fill out remaining pieces of gear to get min 200 ilvl on all pieces.
-queing enough arena to unlock your vault and get a decent piece from it.

The 183 honor gear is not going to be competitively viable now that pvp scaling is gone. Main stat is the most important stat.

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Breaking news! WoW players will have to play WoW to obtain gear!

thanks-- so its

ilvl > all atm

In other words it’s time to time gate my sub to bliz.

Gj for the 2weeks of fun Blizzard. Best change pvp gearing if you don’t want to lose a massive pvp community.

:peace_symbol:

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For the most part yea a 200 non vers piece is guna be better than a 183 non vers piece the stam gain will make up for the increase in damage taken.

We are trying to play World of WARcraft.

We are not trying to play World of RAIDcraft.

we didnt even have rated arenas on the beta until the final week LOL

hehe and therein lay the pvp dilemma-- in that THE PVE GEAR ALSO GIVES VERSATILITY.

i do remember someone saying that they wanted to make sure that pvp gear isnt substantially better than pve gear. i was in hopes that world pvp would become a much bigger factor in this expansion.

I’m really unhappy about how far conquest gear is time gated. It would make some sense if honor gear could be upgraded to dropped +15 m+ content (216 I believe) but instead we wait 3 more weeks to upgrade it to 197 ilvl while next week there’ll be 216 drops from m+.

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Yea this situation would be a lot more tolerable if honor gear were brought up to the same level that we can obtain through spam m+

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