lol and you think the game should cater to that playstyle?
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Thats exactly what it does.
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You shouldnât stay in resting area doing nothing, you can walk your dog, look at your anima powers, plan your next anima, look at your sorrounding, etc.
The main argument on why Torghast shouldnât have timer is people have IRL responsibilities, this resting area solved that.
They used to. They promised us that playstyle in this tower.
Let me ask you. If you liked mythic plus, would you be happy if they changed itâs core play style on you?
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I noticed people were mad because they didnât know what a soft timer is.
The tower doesnât exist on live - there is no changing the playstyle.
Not at all what Kaleaon mentioned. As long as weâre in agreement that you are talking about an entirely unrelated argument than the one you replied to, great.
Soft timer = artificial pacing from an outside source.
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And as you become more familiar with them, they will become regular choices which will become less important.
Do it in the rest area. I had a cat. She could live for 5-10 minutes while I finished something.
Go for it. Itâs not gonna be the end of the world and will likely result in 2% of whichever torment youâre currently dealing with. You are panicking over nothing.
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It doesnât intimidate me at all, and Iâm about a casual a player as you can be.
From what I am seeing of Torghast, I think itâs one of the most innovative ideas they have come up with in years. I only hope they go even further, and create other similar ideas throughout the game. The more creative, changeable, fun and challenging activities put into the game, the happier I will be.
And I think you will find a lot of other âcasualâ players feel the same.
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I donât think so. What intimidated me was people playing for 4 to 8 hours in there, the endless nature of it.
I donât like to feel rushed but I just am not interested in content taking hours more.
I still donât understand what you people think you are going to be âexploringâ on floor 35 of a procedurally-generated dungeon.
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They have to do the content I imagine or at least watch others doing the content. I agree there isnât anything to âexploreâ. It is actually a pretty boring environment.
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It is the principal of the thing. The point of the tower was to once again enjoy vanilla like content that was not on a timer.
This change effectively reverses what was sold to us.
All and all it will be a minor annoyance I can live thru if it goes live. But it should not go live to begin with .
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Ah, so youâve played it and felt intimidated by the non-timer? Or you imagine a 2-hour timer on 20-minute content to be too intimidating for you?
I mean, yeah â most of the criticisms I see from this crowd are from people who fundamentally have not seen, or donât understand, anything about what Torghast actually is or looks like.
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He wants Torghast to be infinite content engaged as long as the players wants to, which part of it is wrong?
Just donât die and keep climbing or get to resting area, you can stay there forever.
Its a prison area anyway, not a picnic area.
Youâre trying to say that a PERMANENT STACKING DEBUFF that stacks every 60 seconds wonât turn Torghast into a fast-paced, time-constrained feature that prevents you from taking a break because you accidentally attacked something or looted something and lost your ârestingâ buff?
It wont intimidate any players at all?
Come on. So disrespectful to think everyone is this stupid. Adding a timer to anything no matter how slow that timer is, turns it into timed content.
Itâs not just a tower with no timer anymore, where you can go afk and spend as much time as you want doing whatever you want anymore. Nope. Itâs TORMENTED now. Timers are back because we gotta get those timers in there baby. Gotta look out for all the tryhard speedrunners out there. That tryhard method player on twitch was sitting there waiting for his heroism because they are such a tryhard so we just gotta put a timer on every floor now guys itâs just what makes video games fun 
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there is such an easy solution for this: make the timer work for groups only, and from a certain ilvl upwardsâŚcall it mythic torghast or whatever makes them elitists happy. Problem solved. If they are being honest about what they created torments for (groups pushing content) then they dont have to bother soloers like me.
It doesnât begin stacking until floor 10 (which will mean youâve already spent about 30 minutes in Torghast), and the debuff will be, at worst, 50% more damage taken after fifty minutes.
Itâs a minor debuff.
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