Im super tired of having so few options when it comes to healers in PvP.
This game is notorious for having favorites and healers are no exception.
Please make all types of healers viable, im tired of seeing only disc priests as healers in pvp and 90% arent worth the time.
Its really sad actually that such a big game has such a huge problem with balance… or maybe its intended
Raiding, 2 Disc, 2 HPal
M+, Disc or HPal
PvP, Disc and HPal.
This is typically the combo/choice.
Every healer is viable.
Not being mean or anything but you’re not a r1/glad player(neither am I) so at the level you play at every healer can get the rating you’re probably shooting for.
Just play the healer you want and get better.
There’s far less stigma in game about playing fotm / using WAs / Lossa now, so this problem will never get better. It will only get worse.
Everyone will constantly flock to what is fotm, exacerbating the already poor balancing situation we have.
Community problem that has only become nuclear over time
Is it really a community problem? People would’ve behaved the same if ease of fotming was the same at any given point in the past as it is now.
The root problem is that said ease has gotten to an extreme. Leveling can be done in a day or two, or even boosted. Honor gearing is instant with transfer. Conquest/Bloody Token gearing is incredibly quick, such that you can have half epics in an hour or two. Rewards are account-wide.
There isn’t even a minor speed bump to rerolling. No investment attachment to a character. (Something there is even today on Classic realms, due to the fundamental game design.)
And with regard to WAs / addons, this is also a consequence of the game’s evolution, and everything being so modifier-centric and less readable.
Yes.
Boosting always been a thing
All of this is true, but largely irrelevant to people fotming (imo). Look @ classic cata or wrath. 0 variety, 1-2 maybe 3 total comps could be played. Making alts was really hard, but everyone knew what was op, so they went to it immediately, especially with the knowledge there’d be no changes.
True.
Weakauras aren’t required for glad or anything under it. They’ve always been around and the UI has always been awful, yet players managed. Same with old tournaments. Weakauras don’t exist because of PvP lmao, they exist because of insane pve design and a random critter on +20 having the ability to wipe your group.
95% of what you need to see is shown by the game + Omni bar & gladius.
Uh… no? Since WoD. Which is when the fotming problem really began in earnest, for the very reason of boosting.
Now it’s so much easier still, so the problem is consequently that much more ubiquitous.
Well yeah, that’s a flawed comparison. Classic Wrath/Cata are solved game modes. Zero tuning. Not even the same patch variation as the expansions themselves, just one meta all expac.
Retail is not, and fotm fluctuates with each tuning pass because of the extreme ease of rerolling. If rerolling were as difficult as vanilla, or even just WotLK, that wouldn’t happen to nearly such a degree.
Never said they were, lol. But one of the fundamental reasons PvP players have WA suites on their screen is because the game itself is less readable and intuitable than it was in older expansions.
Cooldowns used to be longer and more visible due to particle density alone being way less. Spells used to just do what they did and feel satisfying to press, rather than needing 5 modifiers stacked to move HP, and thus WAs to track that garbage.
My bad bro, I’m using the last decade when I say “always” I think that’s a fine window of time to look at for this argument. And my point remains true.
Fwiw fotm was also an issue throughout mop, unsure why we think it started in wod or got notably worse there. (Blaming boosts would be incorrect, imo).
I love that suddenly we have constant tuning passes on retail that curtail or influence fotm. We get 1 maybe 2 tuning passes that do practically nothing and leave us with the same scenario for an entire season only to recolor it and do it again.
No, people would just wait longer. “That’s the last tuning of the season, awc just started so go ask the streamer what to main”. People aren’t averse to rerolling if it means they ge their rating 100x easier.
Game is as readable as it’s ever been, player base just been relying on WAs so much they forgot they can open their eyes and see what’s happening without them.
You propose we make it harder to level and gear?
I propose more consistent balance updates.
I’m merely commenting on the fact that the extreme QoL we have now has certain trade-offs, one of which is a consequent level of extreme fotm rerolling.
so far this season i have played disc,mw,rsham they all feel about the same just in there own way tbh but i feel like you need higher skill for classes that aren’t disc/hpaly if im seeing it right
Disc priest is the favourite healer. Legit though biggest gaslighter spec in the game calling the new nerfs unplayable when it’s a 1% nerf to damage reduction on atonement LOL.
Funny that a disc priest comes in and tells us ‘EVERY HEALER IS VIABLE’ hahaha you are an actual joke mate.
Every healer is viable at the ratings me and you play at. Not my fault you want it easier.
Oh look its the disc priest again.
LOL last tier when you/others were whining about rdruid it was fine and probably my easiest healer to mog by a lot.
Maybe just get better and quit whining. Disc isn’t holding you back lil fella.
last tier when was I whining? we got 1 sec shaved off clone how many whine posts from druid have their been? get your head checked buddy.
Another disc priest another gaslight.
Not gaslighting. Disc is good and easy…I’m playing my hpally now and will go to rdruid then rsham and get every set easily.
You trying to argue that every healer isn’t viable at mine/your rating is just ignorance.
Any healing spec can get duelist easy(thats mine and your max), now higher as in glad, not sure since i’ve never been.
Quit being stubborn and realize if you’re having a problem as a healer in our rat leagues, that’s a “you” problem.
druid is way harder than disc right now. incomparable. 1800 is easy everyone knows that.
more gaslighting though, duelist right now in solo shuffle for each spec is as follows:
disc priest = top 9% of the spec
shaman = top 5.4% of the spec
holy paladin = top 3.9% of the spec
holy priest and rdruid = top 1.83% of the spec
pres = top 1.82% of the spec
MW = top 1.43% of the spec
but no its rat leagues for us right? you have no clue what you are talking about.
for real. this passes as a nerf for peopel???
disc in resto druid tier NOW or riot
i dont even particularly blame discs for preventing me from climbing or whatever i just wanna see meta healers suffer