You can roll for the items, you know?
And inversely you won’t attract new members if you give away loot just so people can play with it in pvp.
It’s pretty selfish to expect loot to be given to you, specifically. Especially over loyal members who’ve been there.
You’re right. I’m generous to let others have things before me. There’s no price in the good karma that heads my way, in practicing this.
I do agree there. Still, it’s the result of the OP’s actions that led to all of this.
Correct. Likewise, the guild was testing out his membership. No harm in that either.
Ah, like an already decked out Warrior with a higher reserve?
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How many servers to you plan to make a donkey out of yourself on?
Seriously, how many times are you going to go through this same sequence of events before you learn something?
I mean, if everywhere you go it smells like poop, at some point it is time to look at your own shoe.
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We’ve been pretty fortunate, I guess. But our system is a simple Soft Reserve (with an occasional “GDKP” as a fund raiser). I helped administer a Loot Council back in Wrath - but it really seemed to work best when you have a very solid and stable core raid group. We actually went so far one time as to try getting members to “sign” quarterly commitments in exchange for being funneled gear. It was always a bit awkward - especially with new recruits - and took much explaining.
The entire post can be summed down to this by adding “,and not me.”
I play 2-hand fury and it is viable on horde. However OEB is just as good dps due to its +8 in 2-handed swords perk.
You are acting entitled over a PvP weapon that rarely drops on top of it being your 1st week with the guild.
Get over it. /thread
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For some people PvP IS the game…a friend of mine spent his entire horde of DKP on Ashkandi recently so that he could “play with it in PvP”
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Just wanted to point this out as quite a few replies have been assuming the OP is talking about an Alliance guild due to their posting character is a Paladin.
Yes but if you take the OP at face value, yes with a big grain of salt, then the person was not a serious pvper.
its a GAME dawg. who cares about “serious pvper.” playing around is asufficient reason to award loot if that person is loyal and friendly, that’s what this game is about. OP sperged
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pretty much this. them guys are strapped up and their warriors are beastly. he shot himself on the foot on this one, id even go so far as to say next week would have started the funneling… but thats just a “bet”.
and to reiterate on my previous comment Kade, no, purge might not be able to “blacklist” you from the server. but your actions over this and how you handled them last night dont make any of us want to play with you.
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Yeah, in my original reply I made this mistake…if I’d known he was talking about a horde side guild, I would have been a lot more dismissive off the bat. DD is an alliance dominated server and thus the horde has a really small close-knit community there’s really no room for horde guilds to be shady. The alliance community is awesome for the most part, but there are a few alliance guilds where I might have been sympathetic with him for ending up in the wrong place.
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Live and learn. Loot council works if loot is listed and mapped out for everyone to see. Also why bother with LC if the guild isn’t pushing for competitive clear times?
As a “new guy” you should expect to get passed over for a couple weeks unless the item(s) are to be DE’d.
Next time around, just don’t run with LC guilds.
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First of all, if you wipe in BWL you might never clear AQ40.
Second, Ashkandi is a “reward weapon”. It has MANY uses, but none for raids, unless you are a hunter. Humans don’t get windfury. Orcs don’t get 85% glancing blow damage. It is a piece of gear to reward loyal members, not one you give away thinking of your raid’s performance.
So, you can give this 2-h weapon that is amazing for PvP, dungeon tanking (arms/prot or not) or looking smug in Ironforge to a guy who has been in the guild for a while and who you know will stick around or you can give it to a guy you barely know… Who would you choose? In three weeks the newcomer will have something like Brutality Blade/Viskag anyway, or even better weapons if he has edgies. By that point the only use you would get out of Ashkandi would be PvP.
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After 15 years playing WoW and never being an officer/guild master I can confidently say loot council is the only gear distribution method that actually works. If you’re doing Mythic progression you’ll raid with the same 19 people for months or years, and by that point everyone knows almost everything the others need and trust each other to make good decisions. If LC doesn’t work maybe the guild is just bad.
EDIT: I am aware master looter is gone. Welp. It was good while it lasted.
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You did the right thing, that’s sounds awful. Dunkin on the new guy just because he’s new is why they are where they are, struggling to clear BWL.
Let’s be clear, this has nothing to do with the item in question, just the guild and it’s attitude.
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^^ You’re out of touch then. If you dont understand why that guild did what they did, then they’d be better off with you and people like OP just gquitting after the first raid.
The guild having issues in BWL isn’t the issue. It was likely them testing the loot temperament of a new raider and that raider failing gloriously.
What’s changed after a few raids is that they now have at least some bare minimum confidence that you are not “an entitled loot ho that is going to throw out drama and /gquit when you don’t get what you want”.
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When did they “dunk on the new guy”? They just didn’t want to give an item that is commonly given out as reward for previous dedication/performance/loyalty to a person they barely know. Ashkandi isn’t a raiding weapon unless you’re a hunter.
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Not so sure Classic has these levels of gameplay difficulty and dedication requirements to warrant a LC. Maybe in Naxx… Current content is ezpz.
LC is probably one of the best options of getting everyone geared for optimal efficiency, but, unless gear drops are planned out and everyone is aware of “who gets what next based on xyz factors” LC can come off the rails fairly easily.
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