Black Lotus and WSG Adjustments

haha gud changes go brrrrrrth. Y u mad?

And in Vanilla we weren’t all so rich. Half of the players weren’t able to buy an epic mount before TBC.

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What about AV fix? Allies holding druids is not inteneted game play. And the move of horde cave? Fix that are need too.

I cringe every time i hear some baby whine about large queues. You made that decision when you rolled on a high pop server. You were warned, you were given free transfer and you didnt take it.

You get what you rightly deserve

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Sorry blizzard didnt consult you first as for the best possible options for their announcement.

Wow, this really great news for the players!!

Not so great news for the multi-boxers, botters, cartels and the rest of the automation army whom I am guessing will not be happy about this change but still…

REALLY great news for the players!! :smiley:

Thanks.

I always wonder why these sorts of quality-of-life changes are made so long after it became obvious they were badly needed. So its almost 9 months of putting up with these problems before they take action to fix them. Why?

It had to be obvious from the start. How many times prior to Classic’s launch did people talk about wall climbing in WSG? How many comments on wowhead and posts did I see about the issue of Black Lotus and how big a problem it would be.

And you have had that ability from Day 1. From before Day 1 when you started designing Classic. Unless there are so few people working there with little or no insight or imagination or plain common sense. It’s a similar issue to the ongoing overcrowded and wildly out-of-balance pvp servers - they have known about all the problems yet did little or nothing to make the game more playable for everyone.

These moves are good, don’t get me wrong - but I am just so puzzled as to why it has taken all this time.

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As an individual who has farmed these black loti on his own for a while and fought against bots and gold sellers, I think this change is a little confusing.

I think we can agree that bots and gold sellers have been the biggest issue when it comes to farming black loti. However, I don’t really see how this will root them out. They will just figure out the new respawn timer and the new spawn locations, then take their newly leveled characters to the same zones and farm everything. Then, when they have a monopoly on loti once more, they will bump the price up again.

I guess it depends on how many extra nodes they put in. If they, say, just put in another 10 that won’t be all that helpful, but if they put in numbers of herb spawn locations similar to other herbs, that could mean a large number of locations. And with losing the ability to park dead low level toons on a spawn spot to check out whether they have spawned, it will mean either a huge number of alts with high level herbing or a lot of riding. I guess at the very least it make things more difficult for them.

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The easiest way to kill botting is just to eliminate the ability to transfer black lotus across servers. There will always be players or bots running circuits around the zones and this change encourages that. Previously, camping was the best strategy to collect lotus because of the relatively low number of characters required to lock down a zone. Assuming an extra 20 or so locations, camping will become far less competitive. Still, I suspect that running limited circuits around a small portion of the zone on multiple characters will ultimately be the best strategy for botters or guilds trying to dominate the spawns.

Was already a change from the start.

Servers hold 15k people instead of the old servers that held 3k, which is why the lotus issue has been so apparent.

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LOL!!!

That is hilarious!!

And just who did you think all that gold you spent in the Auction House was going to? Some “independent” Black Lotus farmers? Your “fight” against the bots and gold farmers just supplied them with gold for their actions.

This is actually a really GREAT change for the players.

Not so much for the botters, multi-boxers, cartels, and the rest of the automation army but still…

GREAT news for the players. :slight_smile:

Thanks.

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Few months after the release : lotus prices were fine, we were still 15k, lotus spawn rate wasn’t nerfed.

The control of the spawn location was the issue, not the amount of Black lotus. Because it is supposed to be a rare ressource not something every guilds can get to raid every weeks

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Yes cause the only sellers of black lotus was Bots lol

This change does nothing to address the massive botting and gold selling issue, the change is simply just to address the over population problem on servers.

Nice job on the black lotus, now fix the pugs vs random queues, balance the BG’S, ban the bots, control horde vs alliance populations and add a few more servers and I’ll resub.

Yikes. That’s some choice language there. Anybody that can decipher a little bit of that will see it’s inappropriate. Just because it’s “hidden” text, it is still not okay to say on the forums. I’m going to report your post, fwiw.

But on topic, I am thankful for these changes!

Of all the examples this guy could have picked, he picked the one that Blizzard also increased spawn rates on for this very reason. Congratulations, you played yourself.

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I’m glad they made these changes. Improving upon older, poor design choices preserves the better aspects of this game. Sorry about your gold, but I honestly don’t think it’s a big deal. Actually, no I’m not sorry about your gold. Find another way to make too much gold. If you play the capitalist game, you should know stuff flips on a dime. Investors be damned!

We have different definitions of « try their best » for a video game.

All things are best when taken with moderation.

Well considering epic mounts are 900g or less, I’d say you don’t need more than 2k gold to cruise all of classic. Having any more than that is a pure waste of time.

Any BC server worth their salt will be fresh anyway. Nobody sane wants to go into BC along with a broken economy caused by bots and sweaty lotus mafias/multiboxers bringing a few characters at gold cap whatever it is 50k 100k doesn’t matter.

But keep doing what you enjoy but if you’re not enjoying it… stop wasting your time then